Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Stopping Shot: Attacks Random Pool?
I understand stopping shot is the pistoleer big hitter.
Yet it seems to hit random pools, this significantly reduces its use in PvP.
Whilst we're at it, why doesnt Pistol Melee Defense have a knockdown?
Are other ppl aware of these issues?
The entire stances line is random HAM damage, stopping shot is 3 up, fan shot is above that, doesn't seem to hit as hard, but seems to hit faster (more DPS?).
Bodyshot3 is our targeted health shot, and it of course does about 1/2 the damage of stopping shot.
I emailed issues outearlier and the update included melee defense 2 not having knockdown.
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Are you seeing specials in the Bounty Hunter line that do damage similar to stopping shot but ona targeted HAM pool? Please do tell...
Fast blast/spray shot...how effective?
Torso shot is ALOT better than stopping or fan shot. It does more damage plus a DoT (fire) and it attacks the health pool.
Stopping shot no one has, but in beta it was better than torso shot.
what a bunch of crap. There is no reason BH should be better than pistoleers in pvp. BH are just that BH, they track people down. Pistoleers are pure pistol fighters, nothing but gunmen.
You trying to say that ANY lawman/bh was better than billy the kid the prince of pistoleers? get outta here.
The fact they are pretty similar is good enough.
I agree with Wookie on that. You could be a pistoleer in a master of days, yet some servers are just NOW getting Novice bounty hunters.
ManceDgypsy wrote:
what a bunch of crap. There is no reason BH should be better than pistoleers in pvp. BH are just that BH, they track people down. Pistoleers are pure pistol fighters, nothing but gunmen.
You trying to say that ANY lawman/bh was better than billy the kid the prince of pistoleers? get outta here.
The fact they are pretty similar is good enough.
I slightly agree. A BH in the SWG was someone who's main profession was killing people. As such, he should be the most proficient at doing so. However, I dislike the fact that a BH's pistol branch is just as strong as an entire Pistoleer tree. Pistoleer should be the best at using a pistol. Pistoleer should not however be the best at killing people. If a pistoleer and someone who has only gotten the pistol branch in BH duel, the pistoleer should win.However, if a BH maximizes the use of his 3 weapons, then he should be able to win. This also encourages using skill to play as opposed to spamming 1 kind of attack (pistol whip, fanshot, torsoshot, bodyshot3, etc.). Just my opinion, because as it stands, it takes less to get the BH pistol branch, but yet the BH ends up being approx. as good as a master pistoleer.
Varvidos01 wrote:
Torso shot is ALOT better than stopping or fan shot. It does more damage plus a DoT (fire) and it attacks the health pool.
Stopping shot no one has, but in beta it was better than torso shot.
I have stopping shot, with my FWG5 that is 61 - 194 damage I deal about 600 - 1450 with Stopping Shot. The recycle time is much longer than other attacks. If you would get a weapon with a higher minimum damage but still have that high max damage then it could easily one shot kill anyone in PvP. If you hit on the low end of the damage then you have a chance to hit there lowest stat, if you hit on the upper side of you damage it dosent matter what pool you hit.
If your looking for raw damage per seconds, Double Tap is probably the way to go, but it too is random pool damage, it is a much faster recycle than Stopping Shot (really really faster)
Yet it seems to hit random pools, this significantly reduces its use in PvP.
well i dunno, i found it useful.. i hit someone for 1030 damage and he fell over. i dont care that it hit his action pool... lol, i still walked over and DB'ed him just the same.
You cry babies that are always looking to whine about why you need more than what you haveme laugh.
Pistoleers and BH are not in competition. Pistoleers can master multiple classes. BH can not. Mastering multiple classes should be something that says it all, however, i'll go further.
Additionally, the BHpistol abilites are available to the Master Pistoleers. If you have class envy and want that additional special shot and speed then train it and grind the exp takes to get it. Add the BH pistol line to your template.
Pistoleers need two things:BodyShot 3 needs attentionand a pistoleer only weapon that is not bugged.If they ever fix the DX2 then we'll have that.
Yes, we need some attention. However, there is no reason to start with this jealousy crap. If you want tothe BH abilities and want to make the sacrifice the BHs did by having to grind out master scout, grow up and do what it takes to grind out that exp so that you can train the BH pistol line and quit crying.
Chaed_Arelk wrote:
I agree with Wookie on that. You could be a pistoleer in a master of days, yet some servers are just NOW getting Novice bounty hunters.
This has nothing to do with BH being a harder route. By reading the BH boards I see a lot of BH's complaining that the inability to earn Lightning Cannon XP and the buggyness of BH missions was the only thing holding up BH's from being Master. In fact if you look at the numbers a Pistoleer requires a little more weapon xp (more than all the rifle, carbine, pistol and LC xp combined for BH) and much more combat xp (588%more in fact)than a BH needs! When you factor in that Pistoleer is only 1/3 of your final path, and BH is the whole of theirs, BHwill bepretty gimp to attain, once the bugs are fixed.
The BH pistol line requires less pistol XP than any single Pistoleer line. Yet it grants the speed, accuracy, and punishing specials of all 4. This is definitely out of whack. If they multiplied the xp required for each BH ladder by 10, then I would agree that they deserve their specials for the extra effort.