Pistoleer Archive

Thread: Make Scatter Wieldable at Master Pistoleer

KaylBreinhar
Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:58 am
#1
Have it augment the DX2 and give us the ability to wield the only pistol in-game (besides the Launcher) that we can't use. It would also increase the proliferation of the weapon and hopefully spur about more positive changes to it.


However, I don't see WHY Master Pistoleers shouldn't be able towield Launcher pistols - not like you'd NEED the HW xp at that point.



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gunner4life
Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:44 am
#2




KaylBreinhar wrote:

Have it augment the DX2 and give us the ability to wield the only pistol in-game (besides the Launcher) that we can't use. It would also increase the proliferation of the weapon and hopefully spur about more positive changes to it.


However, I don't see WHY Master Pistoleers shouldn't be able towield Launcher pistols - not like you'd NEED the HW xp at that point.





we would never hear the end of it from the bh's . as things stand the only advantage a scatter has over a dx-2 is the fact that a dx-2 requires 5 krayt tissues compared to 1 krayt tissue for the scatter . we should ask the devs to change the shematic of the dx-2 to have similar krayt tissue requirements as the scatter.



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SilentJay1284
Fri Apr 02, 2004 5:54 am
#3
Leave the pistols alone. We now have the Geo pistol.



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321Bebop
Fri Apr 02, 2004 8:15 am
#4

What? Can geo pistols be made and can we use them?


I say I need something else besides the crappy DX2.





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CrazySithSlayer
Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:24 am
#5




SilentJay1284 wrote:
Leave the pistols alone. We now have the Geo pistol.





haha ur making me laugh, we have a Geo pistol?? You mean you have a Geo pistol


not every pistoleer can obtain a Geo pistol like a DX2 or like any other pistol


but anyways i don't tihnk we should get the BH's Scatter they are gonna start complaining about it so much it won't be worth it




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Hawaii5_o
Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:39 am
#6




SilentJay1284 wrote:
Leave the pistols alone. We now have the Geo pistol.





No we don't. The only people that have Geo Pistols are those who loot the ever so elusive schematic, or those who loot one from a Geonosian. And the looted ones have very poor stats except for the DOT's they inflict. The Geo Pistol will probably end up hurting our profession more than helping it because most of us will never have one and when we ask for another pistol everyone else will yell and say, "You have the best stun weapon in the game!!! You don't need any more pistols!"


Thanks, Devs.




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ArchFirehaven
Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:04 pm
#7
Well I am a BH and a Pistoleer...


And I say give the Scatter to Master Pistoleers...here is a wake up call everyone...Pistoleers and Commando's do suffer an HUGE hinderance that other classes do not support. Thunderheart or Radon I hope you read this becaues honestly it blows my mind this is not a top issue.


So....lets take a gander....


All Master Melee classes (TKA, Fencer, Swordsman, Pikeman) can use all the weapons of their class in this game.

Master Rifleman can use all the rifles in the game.

Master Carbineers can use all the carbines in the game.

Master Pistoleers cannot use argueably the two best pistols in the game....the Launcher and the Scatter Pistols. The Launcher does a damage type we do not have access to and the Scatter is clearly superior to the DX2 and it is also about looks people...the scatter and launcher both have cool shooting animation and most folks agree that both weapons tend to "look" better than the DX2. People play a game more and longer when they feel their characters are "cool" and doing "cool" things and having "cool" stuff. Give up both the Launcher and Scatter at the Master Pistoleer box.


Master Commandos cannot use argueably the best (at worst second best) heavy weapon in the game, the LLC. It does a different damage type than what they have access too and it does similiar damage and tends to fire faster, and since the Flame DOT was changed this brings the flamethrower and LLC into even a closer competition. BTW then need their acid rifle fixed too...cool looking weapon (see above about how important this is) that should fire green bolts like the DX2 or DRX6 (again cool factor folks).


And lets not forget BH's...I dont want to rob them of their uniqueness. They get the LLC and Scatter at novice (Pistoleers would have to wait until Master and get no extra specials and Commandos would get the LLC but only get the two cone attacks until master where they would get a Single2 equivalent). A Master BH would get to dual wield pistols but not get a dual weilding special (can still do normal ones with two pistols out) nor any extra modifiers to Dual wielding. We would then give them three new "gadget" weapons that do not rob other classes of great weapons...stuff like wrist flamethrowers (so they can be armed but not look it), tangle lines (might not do damage but act as a KD weapon with a high chance of success), wrist rockets (again they look unarmed and harmless...but then Whammo AR2 Blast damage rockets with limited shots...never underestimate a Bounty Hunter).


Stop hurting the Commando and Pistoleer professions and start helping Commandos, Pistoleers, AND Bounty Hunters!





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haun
Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:21 pm
#8
im a bh/pistoleer.


i think the scatter should stay in the hands of the bh


and simply give the pistoleers their own leet pistols in the ranged of 130-200 with ar1.


i don't think the launcher is that great and the commandos need their own stuff.


maybe jango's westar pistols at master for us


there is always room for the devs to put new pistols in the game so i am sure we will get something.


i found the geno schematic and it is fun, but you need to get decent tissues to make a good one.


i got some 75 tissues so i'm waiting on a slice.

but still - the fact that the geno is not AR1 means any armor with a slight stun resist destroys its dmg.


even schematic ones aren't that great against stun armor - good - but not great.



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ArchFirehaven
Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:28 pm
#9
Haun I would agree with you except as I have already stated it makes Pistoleers (and Commandos) have hinderances that no other like combat class has. BH's need their own weapons...but not at the expense of creating other inequalities.




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SilentJay1284
Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:29 pm
#10
Ok, I have a geo pistol cause I am in a big PA. Technically, next patch it seems, the Republic Blaster will actually need certification.



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ArchFirehaven
Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:36 pm
#11

Just so everyone is clear on my profession...the issue isnt getting new weapons. We got the Geo pistol and Rifleman got the DRX6b and will be getting the new Beserker Rifle and Carbineers got (a somewhat borked it should be kinetic) Nyms Carbine. Swordsman "kinda" go the Scythe (they should have had it all along) and were the NightSister energy lances new for Pikeman? I really dont know. But again that is not the issue...


The issue is that the availability of weapons should be equal across professions. There are two ways to accomplish this...one is take say the Laser Rifle and Laser Carbine away from their respected professions and move them to say Bounty Hunter only. Give the PowerHammer to the Commando only and the VibroAxe. For some reason give the VibroSword to Smugglers and let them have the VK at novice while TKA's have to wait until master. Does that sound good to you?


Or


Create a specific class of BH weapons that makes them feel unique and special, let them keep what the already have, and distribute the legacy BH weapons to the appropriate classes and then everyone is equal.






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Hawaii5_o
Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:54 pm
#12




ArchFirehaven wrote:

Just so everyone is clear on my profession...the issue isnt getting new weapons. We got the Geo pistol and Rifleman got the DRX6b and will be getting the new Beserker Rifle and Carbineers got (a somewhat borked it should be kinetic) Nyms Carbine. Swordsman "kinda" go the Scythe (they should have had it all along) and were the NightSister energy lances new for Pikeman? I really dont know. But again that is not the issue...


The issue is that the availability of weapons should be equal across professions. There are two ways to accomplish this...one is take say the Laser Rifle and Laser Carbine away from their respected professions and move them to say Bounty Hunter only. Give the PowerHammer to the Commando only and the VibroAxe. For some reason give the VibroSword to Smugglers and let them have the VK at novice while TKA's have to wait until master. Does that sound good to you?


Or


Create a specific class of BH weapons that makes them feel unique and special, let them keep what the already have, and distribute the legacy BH weapons to the appropriate classes and then everyone is equal.







Pistoleers should be able to use every pistol in the game. Carbiners should be able to use ever carbine in the game. Riflemen should be able to use every rifle in the game. Commando's with heavy weapons, Fencers, Swordsman, Pikeman etc...BH's are special because of their ability to wield several different types of weapons to fit the situation. They are the resourceful combatants that will use all means necessary to get the job done. The setback of being one of the elite professions (Pistoleer for example) is that we can only use pistols.



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SilentJay1284
Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:55 pm
#13
Let the classes keep the weapons given to them by the devs.



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