Pistoleer Archive

I would like to start a petition that Master Pistoleers wield Duel Pistols.

Why you ask??? Because we have busted our butts to make Master and since BH's, Commados, and the combinations out there can use hugely overpowered weapons(flamethrowers/ LLC's that hit for over 2k damage, PER SHOT), we need something to counter act this. Also, since they are nerfing single pistols and limiting them to under 500 damage, we should be able to use 2 pistols at once, so that we have a chance against a flamethrower, scatterpistol, LLC and these classes that use them.

Besides, im sure that a MASTER Pistoleer would be using 2 anyways,AND, they would make us look unique and stand out as well.

Also, is there any way you can lower the cost of my MeleeDefense2, c'mon already, it hardly ever works since the patch and it costs over HALF of my action pool just to use it once!?!?!>???

Thank you Ladies and Gents, Please keep this constructive

Danos Hyde

Master Ranger/ Pistoleer, Kettemoor

Does anyone agree with me when I say pistoleers should not have dual wield, and its totally out of character for the class?

When I picture a pistoleer at work, I see a calm cool character with one pistol in his hand as a massive beast charges him. He raises his gun, takes careful aim, and in ONE amazing shot the creature falls to the ground and tumbles to the pistoleer's feet, dead.

Pistoleers arent suppose to be characters with guns in each hand snapping off wild shots until their targets, and the area around them, are obliterated. Right? This sounds more like a BH, or better yet, a smuggler.

Pistoleers should be asking for a badass gun and badass, high damage (working) specials to go along with them, not the ability to spray blaster fire as much as, and as fast as they can. Thats for bounty hunters and others with no pistol 'grace' who dont understand how to use a pistol like a scalpel, and instead use it like a club.

Yes, No?
Whatever you believe, thanks for listening.

-Terrik Rienert
-Kettemoor

I dont see why two pistols = wild shoots. Maybe its jsut because I am more of a Dark Tower fan that a Star Wars fan, but to me two pistols = twice as many accurate and deadly shoots (in the right hands).

I think if they ever add duel-pistols it needs to come at a delay / accuracy penalty (ie You're still firing faster because you have 2, but each is firing slower than if you had one, you'd also be firing less accurate shots, but twice as many - it would still be better than 1 pistol). Pistoleers can kill people already, adding dual pistols ar 100% normal ability would make it overpowered.

BH and commando spend more points so should be better than a person who is just a Pistoleer - they should be on the same level as a Pistoleer + Another combat classs or something though.

There are lots of balance issues already, until they've worked out the ones in game, adding more with dual weapons would just be trouble. I'm more inclined to have them fix our DX2 and specials before adding more professoin content.

Highly unlikely you will ever see duel pistols. This has been suggested many, many, many times and always the response is that it would be cool but out of balance. Plus, everytime it comes up Bounty Hunters scream it should be their skill because Jango Fett used duel pistols.

I am a retired Combat Medic and suggested an alternate to the Poison DOT, a direct damage attack like a poison dart. Immediately the BH's screamed it should be their's because Jango Fett used one.

Make any cool suggestion and a BH will find a way to justify it being their skill.

LOL Ghost.....good point

If we ever wanna see dual wielding pistols, i think it will have to be an elite elite profession of the pistoleers.

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Does anyone agree with me when I say pistoleers should not have dual wield, and its totally out of character for the class?

When I picture a pistoleer at work, I see a calm cool character with one pistol in his hand as a massive beast charges him. He raises his gun, takes careful aim, and in ONE amazing shot the creature falls to the ground and tumbles to the pistoleer's feet, dead.

Pistoleers arent suppose to be characters with guns in each hand snapping off wild shots until their targets, and the area around them, are obliterated. Right? This sounds more like a BH, or better yet, a smuggler.

Pistoleers should be asking for a badass gun and badass, high damage (working) specials to go along with them, not the ability to spray blaster fire as much as, and as fast as they can. Thats for bounty hunters and others with no pistol 'grace' who dont understand how to use a pistol like a scalpel, and instead use it like a club.

Yes, No?
Whatever you believe, thanks for listening.

-Terrik Rienert
-Kettemoor

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What you just described is really what we see Bounty hunters doing - they aim at the **edit** thing's eye while we're the ones that blast randomly at its carcass in the hopes we'll melt enough of it before it gets its tusks into pronging distance.

I think dual pistols would be a great thing to add for master pistoleers - it'd certainly give the Devs a cop out for fixing the useless specials "who needs specials when you've got two pistols blazing away? " they'd say, and we'd all cry out into the night insimultaneous pain and exultation... or something.

As to the Bounty Hunters (not the true BHs that are in it to be just that, hunters of bounty), they tend to yell at most things that move or walk by them, kind of like an old man who's been drunk for the majority of his life, and with similar cohesion. Let them throw those arguments about Jango around, he was one of the main characters, andas such had double the amount of SP as any normal person (obviously, right?).He wasprobably a master pistoleer, master bounty hunter and master commando and who knows, maybe master chef aswell.

Anywho, back to my idling

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terrrrik wrote:
Pistoleers arent suppose to be characters with guns in each hand snapping off wild shots until their targets, and the area around them, are obliterated. Right? This sounds more like a BH, or better yet, a smuggler.

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Hey, I resent that! Besides...what if I'm both Master Pistoleer and Master Smuggler?

Weryn Bryu
Smuggler/Pistoleer/Shrubber

Boy, I don't know what westerns you grew up watching but I've seen ALOT of pistoleers that weild two guns. One of my favorites is Keven Costner's character in Silverado, fancy 2 gun rig and all kinds of acuracy and trick shooting. I think duel pistols would be cool as hell, and just as unlikely.

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terrrrik wrote:
Does anyone agree with me when I say pistoleers should not have dual wield, and its totally out of character for the class?

When I picture a pistoleer at work, I see a calm cool character with one pistol in his hand as a massive beast charges him. He raises his gun, takes careful aim, and in ONE amazing shot the creature falls to the ground and tumbles to the pistoleer's feet, dead.

Pistoleers arent suppose to be characters with guns in each hand snapping off wild shots until their targets, and the area around them, are obliterated. Right? This sounds more like a BH, or better yet, a smuggler.

Pistoleers should be asking for a badass gun and badass, high damage (working) specials to go along with them, not the ability to spray blaster fire as much as, and as fast as they can. Thats for bounty hunters and others with no pistol 'grace' who dont understand how to use a pistol like a scalpel, and instead use it like a club.

Yes, No?
Whatever you believe, thanks for listening.

-Terrik Rienert
-Kettemoor

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i am a master pistoleer

i have been one for 4 months

i would LOVE to have 2 pistols.

i dont want them to both do damage. I dont want to have ANY bonuses with it. I dont want to have any negs because im not taking any bonuses

i just want to be able to shoot 2 pistols at once becaus eit looks cool and would stand us out.

visually there is NOTHING different about a master pistoleer and anyone else who uses a pistol. Even an ARTISAN with a pistol looks the same.

i want a stunning visual.

I would like to see duel weild pistols as part of the skill tree..not somthing only a master can do, but you have to be more than a novice to duel weild.

/sarcasm

Could I twirl my dual guns at the same time? Or would I have to twirl them independantly?

Ya, just think about Multi-taget Shot with 2 guns out .......oh wait, they havent fixed MTPS yet?

Ok, well just think about how many guys you could disarm with 2 guns at the same time.......What? disarm doesn't actually disarm anything? Darn.

You get the idea. Lets get what most folks think we already have before we go asking for new and improved stuff.

I realize that if all we ever talked about on here was the same issues we've had since our first report this board would get stale. I also realize that we have come up with some pretty inventive ways to maximze what we got. Who the hell thought up spamming kip-up. Brilliant.

My point is, if you want to make a "what if" kind of post, please phrase it as such. We have things that don't work RIGHT NOW, so adding more things shouldn't be our top priority.


On a side note, can someone get all the carbineers to GO HOME. I don't care about your ham costs. It's not my fault you don't understand spice/food/doc buffs.

I'd like it but there is way to much that needs to be repaired first before they put in major changes like this.