Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Best Combo to be the biggest badass with a pistol?
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Butterbean569
Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:08 pm
#1
With the new BH changes, I'm thinking of dropping all of my skills besides master pistoleer and master smuggler and going up the BH pistol line. Would this be the best thing to do if I want to have the best template for using pistols? Or is the triple master (Smuggler, Pistoleer, TKM) the best still?
Also, what's the cap on pistol speed and pistol accuracy...and how much better is the scatter pistol than the other pistols?
Any comparisons would be very helpful 
thx
thx
RoarkIdaho
Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:22 pm
#2
I'll be BH 0030, Master Pistoleer, Fencer 4400 after tonight...I think that is the best template
JBadaboom
Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:22 pm
#3
If you have enough points then i would get the dirty fighting line, bh pistols and master pistoleer which would make you ube rin pistols, but a tkm/smuggler/ master pistoleer will get pwned everytime by a master pistoleer/bh pistols. Eyeshot wrecks the mind and the scout allows you to stay away from the tkm part of it. Of course if the fighter has mind buffs/spice/psg then anything in pistols is useless, jsut dont do enough damage. weither they have stun armor or not.
Ferowoar Athe
Master Pistoleer
BH pistols
Ferowoar Athe
Master Pistoleer
BH pistols
JBadaboom
Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:26 pm
#4
Left my first post prematurely, i have not decided what to do with the rest of my points, got tons of them now. Many ways to go including fencer, maybe tka or get the dirty fighting line if i have enough points to get it. i guess it is up to you weither you want tons of defenses or loads of offenses with good defenses.
Ferowoar Athe
Master Pistoleer
BH Pistols
(either fencer or dirty fightin, and tracking 3 to bother newbie jedis)
Ferowoar Athe
Master Pistoleer
BH Pistols
(either fencer or dirty fightin, and tracking 3 to bother newbie jedis)
Butterbean569
Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:43 pm
#5
I just did some calculations and figured I won't be able to keep master pistoleer while keeping smuggler and getting BH pistol. The best I figured was I could drop master pistoleer and revert to 4043. I would lose accuracy and speed mods, but would easily gain them back through the BH line. The only thing I would really be losing that I wouldn't make up from doing this would be the +25 dodge at master pistoleer and the ranged damage mitigation 3 mod (which I don't know how good that is). I think that those losses would be made up with the addition of the scatter pistol, Eye Shot, and Torso shot. What do you guys think? Although I love having the title of Master Pistoleer/Master Smuggler, Ithink that doingthis"pick and choose" wouldwork the best. Any comments?
JBadaboom
Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:06 pm
#6
It is really up to you in the end. Losing the dodge will hurt you defensivly but eye shot and torso shot definetly make up for it. Personally i would drop all smuggler besides dirty fightin and then go up bh pistols. I am guessing though you really like master smuggler and are not willing to giv eit up. Anyways have fun with which ever you pick no matter what.
Ferowoar Athe
Master Pistols and eye shot spammer
Ferowoar Athe
Master Pistols and eye shot spammer
Vingr
Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:09 pm
#7
Butterbean569 wrote:
I just did some calculations and figured I won't be able to keep master pistoleer while keeping smuggler and getting BH pistol. The best I figured was I could drop master pistoleer and revert to 4043. I would lose accuracy and speed mods, but would easily gain them back through the BH line. The only thing I would really be losing that I wouldn't make up from doing this would be the +25 dodge at master pistoleer and the ranged damage mitigation 3 mod (which I don't know how good that is). I think that those losses would be made up with the addition of the scatter pistol, Eye Shot, and Torso shot. What do you guys think? Although I love having the title of Master Pistoleer/Master Smuggler, Ithink that doingthis"pick and choose" wouldwork the best. Any comments?
You'll have to drop one more line in pistoleer if you want any bh pistol line. I'm almost in the same boat as you cept that I havetka as well as smuggler and pistoleer.I might have to drop to 0340 smuggler to get to the bh 4 pistol line.
Butterbean569
Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:52 pm
#8
Wow I can't add....
OK so my latest calculations, which hopefully are right, go like this:
Master Smuggler (I want to keep at all costs), 2 trees in Pistoleer (I was thinking 4040), and the BH line. Is that the best that I can get out of my pistol while keeping all of Master Smuggler?
Butterbean569
Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:11 pm
#9
Oops forgot to mention that I'd only get to the 3rd box in the BH line.
As I research more and more I'm getting a bit more weary of dropping my Master Pistoleer to get this line. I would get Eye shot, a new certification, and some speed/accuracy mods...but I would be losing a lot too in the way of opportunity cost. I'm thinking that I could keep Master Pistoleer and dedicate my skillpoints to something else that would help even more than the BH line. Oi this is tough lol
btw sorry for the spam 
Tymothi
Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:24 pm
#10
I would honestly not take up any bh skills yet. Do something that works, like rifleman or swordsman. When the combat balance is a lot closer, then go bh pistols/master pistoleer/smuggler pistols. You should be pretty good then but as it is now you'll still suck. No matter how good eye shot is it still won't do jack against a stun helmet w/ a stun psg.
Duedroth
Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:07 pm
#12
RoarkIdaho wrote:I'll be BH 0030, Master Pistoleer, Fencer 4400 after tonight...I think that is the best template
hot damn do the math on this guy's defenses ....
def vs KD +100
def vs Posture down +70
def vs all other state effects around +40
dodge +135 (10 over cap but oh well)
Ranged defense +91
Melee defense +121 (only 4 away from cap, easily overcome with a BE shirt or bando)
On top of that, he gets master pistols, the scatter pistol, and eye shot.
He more than caps out his speed with 119 for pistol speed, and his accuracy will be 145 (30 while moving like usual)
I'd say this guy found the secret uber template, except he's not getting the melee mitigation tree in fencer, which will hurt just a bit ... but with a capped melee defense, that might not matter too much.
Stick a few defensive skill tapes on him and he's an untouchable eye-shotting machine
Javac
Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:54 am
#13
Hmm too bad about the 4th box in BH though, torsoshot is nice and more accuracy never hurts.
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