Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Why do pistoleers compare themselves to BHs?
I just want to know. Do you really think u should own a bh based on your abilities granted by your....um...profession? I don't think so. For those of you who will bring up the uber one weapon argument or the total combat skills, please, be reasonable. There is no way you should beat this profession just by being a pistoleer. I'm sorry to break this too you, but your living in a dream world. Also, I've never seen any one list another profession as one of thier top three gripes. You're all very strange people.
I really don't care for pvp, but i'm not going to be griefed by some flava-of-the-month noob. I have friends that are pistoleers. They understand that they're not supposed to be gods of combat, and they understand that they should not be able to win a duel with a bh.(obviously taking into account the lvl of bh and pistoleer and pets ofcourse) One of these friends is a crafter; am i supposed to get owned by a tailor? "Run!! Its that tailor again." Does that make sense.
Some of you people are out of your minds.
[quote]Why do pistoleers compare themselves to BHs?[/quote]
umm, because they both use pistols?
Let me refrase for the rhodes scholars out there: Why do u compare ur combat effectiveness to BH, a profession that requires a helluva lot more skill pts and is based on one on one combate?
I think urmissing the point. Yay, you know ur pistols. So, this pistolguy is expected to kill a hiredassassin, a person that kills people for a living. BH know they're pistols, and you know what, they only have one use for them. Its not to take out a lair or whatever; its supposed to kill a person. Not disarm him or whatever ur skills are, but kill them. We don't get stances. We don't get defenses. But, we get a few shots that help us kill people. That's all we care about, and we should be able to whipe out any player one on one. Your knowledge of this one weaponis not the determining factor when a trained assassin has his reticle on you. That seems to be reasonable to me.
Maybe, you should consider the amount of time it takes to become a bh and pistoleer and then comment.
"Let me refrase for the rhodes scholars out there: Why do u compare ur combat effectiveness to BH, a profession that requires a helluva lot more skill pts and is based on one on one combate?"
We don't. Pistol skill has nothing to do with combat effectiveness.
"So, this pistolguy is expected to kill a hiredassassin, a person that kills people for a living."
Nope, but he is expected to shoot faster and more accurately and he oughta be certified to use a better pistol. Be he isn't.
"That's all we care about, and we should be able to whipe out any player one on one."
Great, this has nothing to do with pistols, so discuss it elsewhere.
"Your knowledge of this one weaponis not the determining factor when a trained assassin has his reticle on you. That seems to be reasonable to me."
Yes and our knowledgeof this one weapon should make us fire faster and more accurately with it too. That seems to be reasonable to me.
The issue is about pistol mastery, not combat effectiveness. If this game is ever balanced, I really hope that every profession can say that it is the master of something. BH's can be the masters of killing people and making redundant posts. Pistoleer can be the masters of pistols.
I'm not exactly sure, but I think the point is that a pistol guy is expected to know his pistols better than a hired assasin.
Look, i'm not sure what the big deal is. I think the only reason it was brought up was that the pistol bonuses for bounty hunters were something like +20 while for pistoleer is was +3 - +10 (around there)
And how much longer does it take to become a novice bounty hunter? 4 days? and the thing that takes a long time to level while you are a bounty hunter are bounty missions, but those shouldn't really help with your pistol skills, should they? I mean i'm pretty sure people don't get better at using a gun by sitting in a starship and running to their mission waypoint, do they?
You can look at this two ways. You can say that by lore, bounty hunters should be better because they hunt people. But pistoleers "hunt" people too (there are npc destroy missions) not to mention there are other bigger game missions too "(such as Kimodo missions). By theory, shouldn't someone who hunts people AND DRAGONS be better with weapons than someone who just hunts people?
And if you want to look at the time aspect, well, I look at you spending that extra time to be able to use extra weapons that pistoleers can't, to be able to do missions that pistoleers can't, to be able to build tents that pistoleers can't, to be able to harvest things that pistoleer's can't, etc. Sure, Pistoleer's can pick up those skills, but then they would have spent the same amount of time learning those as a bounty hunter, in which case the point would be moot.
Right?
Lets face it.....Pistoleers are the most overpowered profession in the game. So they don't need any more speed or accuracy or anything else that makes them more powerful. Pistoleers should stop comparing themselves to BHs because a master pistoleer can probably already beat a master BH.
Pistoleers have nothing to gripe about.....Hey, with all the other broken classes, pistoleers are the ones that want twirly gun animations and holsters!!! Pistoleers should stop complaining and comparing and be happy that they have a profession that is actually VERY powerful.
Gonzologer has a classic case of Delusions of Grandeur when it comes to the BH's trade, also known as Boba Fettitis. I'll point out the obvious first. Boba Fett was one man in the books, an exceptional man and we know him as the best bounty hunter in the galaxy. Most of the BH's from the books weren't nearly as skilled.Let's take a look at real life. Ever see that show onbounty hunters, similar toCops? They followed bounty hunters around with cameras. I'm sorry to break it to you but BH's aren't very tough, in fact most of the ones I saw wereoverwieght baffoonishcop wannabe's. Anymartial arts master would beat them hand to hand, any master gunman would beat them with a gun. What did the BH's have going for them? Their brain! Sadly lacking amoung BH's in SWG
. The BH's caught the badguysthrough careful observation, and digging up useful info, like when theacquisition likes to go potty. Then it's just a matter of timing. Never once did I see the BH's in the show even need to draw their sidearms. Most of the arrests were made while the bounty was sleeping,or some other vulnerable moment. Made for a very boring show and I'm sure that's why it was cancelled, but itinteresting to see what real Bounty hunting is like. So according to SWG lore, there should be only oneBoba Fett, not anyone who can get eyeshot and real life Bounty huntinghas nothing to do with being able to shoot someone in the eye.
You also like to bring up the fact that BH's spend more skill points to begin BH tree, true, however those initial skills BH's need don't go away after you start BH, your still a master scout and master marksman. Secondly BH's track down and capture live targets usually, otherwise why hire a bounty hunter when an assasin would be more logical. I say we give bounty hunters stun guns so they can capture us alive
Gloria, ur trying to compare this game to real-life. In the sw universe the bh is not actually a bh, but he is an assassin. Nice try though. Next argument.
Ever watch King of the Hill? Dale Dribble considers himself a bounty hunter... 