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Thread: PvPing

True_Rebel
Thu Dec 25, 2003 9:41 pm
#1

hi i am soon a master TK, and i was just wondering how to pvp/duel other professions. since i am doing something seroiusly wrong.


i am 3343 TK and i dueled a 2232 TK. at first i hit blind and stun, then spam hit 2 and then hit CoB, i was incap with her only having lost half her life, and she hit the same moves i did. oh by the way we did not use dizz and KD.


And i get creamed in any PvP i attend.


Jut hoped some TKAs out there would help me, I love been TKA, but helping understand how to combat other players would enchance the fun i am haveing being TK




Azar Cloudwalker
Têras Kasi Veteran
Leader of Bringers of Freedom

Paksenarrion Cloudwalker
Jedi Knight
Defender of the Lightside

1Kylekatarn1
Thu Dec 25, 2003 9:51 pm
#2

OK, here are my stategies i used when i wasn't a MD


You v TKA


Well first thing your gonna wanna do is warcry.


This will enable you to get the first hit, therin (if your using KDs/dizzy) winning


If you are using KD, then KD, dizzy, and UA2 (unless you are TKM then KD2 followed by UA3)


If not, just spam UA2 (unless TKM then UA3)



You v Ranged


Yet again first thing your going to want to do is warcry, especially helpful vs commandos or BH


Then go in for the KD/dizzy


If the KD or dizzy doesn't stick, hit them with whichever didn't effect.


Then just UA2 or UA3 your way to victory.


BUT...


If your target decides to kite, get ur ass behind a wall as fast as you can.


What I mean is back your self into a corner where they only way they can hit you is by having to come right next to you.


Good Places for this is just inside a doorway. Step inside then get RIGHT next to the door and against the wall.


Then when your enemy comes in the door lung or KD them, and they are yours.




Trino and Valance

1Kylekatarn1
Thu Dec 25, 2003 9:52 pm
#3

Nother possible reason for your problem above was that your opponent was in some way buffed, or had higher VKers, or armor on.



Trino and Valance

KrackheadBob
Thu Dec 25, 2003 11:10 pm
#4

is it just me, or does wc not work if used as the first attack? i've tried it abunch of times and it would never land, (never even give a message saying it didnt land), and just send me into basic attacks. please tell me im wrong.
realvorda
Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:37 pm
#5

I think you are right!!


I got the same thing with panic shot. if I use it as first attack, it just does nothing. not even a msg that the target resists delay or so.




Vorda Treygath
Synergy
[Original Mandalorian Warrior]
_Macabre_
Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:45 pm
#6

Warcry does not work as a first attack. Hit it twice to use it as an opener. Warcry is a little silly in duels for the same reason that KD2 is, though. It's no fun dueling if it's just a matter of who initiates the duel.


p.s., try headhit1, you'll like it




Jiawa,
Teras Kasi Master / Master Doctor
Master Smuggler (Retired)
Master Creature Handler (Retired)
realvorda
Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:47 pm
#7

well, that counts for every delay shot dont you think?


the trick is to let the other duel first, then type: /duel; /lowblow (or any delay/kd move).


this way you normally win every 1 vs 1 pvp fight (mind armor, buffs, ....) = in my case: 12 secs for free


= in your case: kd + dizzy = win




Vorda Treygath
Synergy
[Original Mandalorian Warrior]
EwokLovinIsGood
Fri Dec 26, 2003 4:56 pm
#8

I think what the original poster is getting at though is he'll lose duels even on completely fair grounds.. IE Everyone does the same exact move.


My question to him then is:


Are you wearing armor and they aren't? Perhaps your encumbrance is making you lose


Are they wearing armor and you aren't? Perhaps they have some very awsome armor.


What kind of Vibro's are you using? 190 damage at 2.3 seconds is what I would purchase. If you have less than this keep shopping!


----


That said any duel can be won with KD/Dizzy or Warcry. As everyone else posted. Just do it to them before they do it to you... There's also no honor in this when dueling. You leave that duel looking like a chump, not a winner.


As for kiters.. Remember Master Brawler gives you a Unarmed Lunge 2.. A 25 meter Knockdown.. If you can't close that gap to 25 meters you're going to die.. plain and simple.


True_Rebel
Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:08 pm
#9

we were on even ground, no armor. no kd/dizzy. just other spesials i have a 40-150 1,6 speed vibro, dont know what the other had.


i tryed it 3 times, i get incap, and she still had half her ham left.


I am human and she was zabrak, but i dont think that has anything to do with it.




Azar Cloudwalker
Têras Kasi Veteran
Leader of Bringers of Freedom

Paksenarrion Cloudwalker
Jedi Knight
Defender of the Lightside

_Macabre_
Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:48 pm
#10

Look in your combat log. Are the damage averages similar? Is it possible that she's using food buffs for secondaries? With VKs you can do more damage to yourself than your opponent is doing to you without buffs.




Jiawa,
Teras Kasi Master / Master Doctor
Master Smuggler (Retired)
Master Creature Handler (Retired)
Koa41
Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:32 pm
#11

I'm just curious..what attacks do you guys use in dueling. Is it a macro or what.


Thanx

Asya

Valcyn
dorsai78664
Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:44 pm
#12





Personally, I don't like macros. Things change so quickly in PvP you need to be able to adapt. However, there are two "passive" macros I don't mind using if I am all unarmed.


Macro name: cob


/centerOfBeing;

/pause xx; <-- your COB mod plus 1 second. Test a little...

/macro cob;


Macro name: fear


/intimidate;

/pause 3;

/intimidate;

/pause 15;

/macro fear;


For the intimidate macro, do a lot of playing around with the pauses to get something that works well for you. I intimidate twice very closely together to make sure it sticks and will adjust the longer pause depending on my mood really. You should not feel noticible breaks in combat. If you do, adjust the pauses a bit.


All state attacks are useful.


Stun: Decrease damage. Lower defenses

Intimidate: Lower defenses. Decrease damage.

Blind: Reduce accuracy.


I find KD2 along with UH3 effective but don't rely soley on them. I also use UC2, lunge, dizzy,and the precision striking moves where appropriate.






Message Edited by dorsai78664 on 08-25-2004 11:47 PM




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Koth_Ablon
Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:04 pm
#13

panic shot until it lands, then intimidate until it lands, then last ditch till i get a stun state, then i torso shot, healthshot 2, bleeding shot, and then spam last ditch, also can use eyeshot if they can heal their health pool. Not many pistoleer moves in there... :/



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