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Thread: Petition: Ship Repair Kits

Cookie-Eater
Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:32 am
#1

If Vehicles get Repair kits for when they break, why not ship ones? Of course, in Asteroid requirements would be 3x as much and should be costing around 1 mill to get your ship repaired.



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Slysix
Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:46 am
#2

Deep Space.

FilanVader
Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:11 am
#3

can ship chassis be restored? or is it gone once it hits 0hp? seems that a shipwright should be able to fully restore anything. and you cant just go buy a new one of the quest ships.
Attacca
Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:46 am
#4

You know that at 1 mil it's cheaper to buy nearly ever single ship? Just don't get blown up. If you have one of the few expensive and hard to replace ships (which would be what, Actis, RGI, Vaksai, maybe heavy X?) try flying something else until you get a little better or reach Ace and can repair in DS.




On a different note,


What's with all the stupid petitions I'm seeing arise again? Couple in this forum, a few up in JTL. Ya'll do understand they do nothing, and SOE and the Devs have stated numerous times that they ignore them?







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FilanVader
Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:47 am
#5

how does one repair in DS? the station there doesnt respond to hails.
Attacca
Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:56 am
#6

Just hyper out, you'll have a 100% component fix.







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Cookie-Eater
Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:09 am
#7







Attacca wrote:

You know that at 1 mil it's cheaper to buy nearly ever single ship?


You know that at 200k its cheaper to buy nearly every vehicle?


Just don't get blown up.


Not possible, I'm human, I make mistakes.


If you have one of the few expensive and hard to replace ships (which would be what, Actis, RGI, Vaksai, maybe heavy X?)try flying something else until you get a little better or reach Ace and can repair in DS.


I dont wanna "try" flying something else because there Ins't another 3 gun 180k mass ship.




On a different note,


What's with all the stupid petitions I'm seeing arise again? Couple in this forum, a few up in JTL. Ya'll do understand they do nothing, and SOE and the Devs have stated numerous times that they ignore them?


Who pissed on your cherios? Chill.


EDIT: Who ever said petitions where for the DEVs? The correspondent is the one that see it and sends his idea to the DEVs. Kinda like the Holster petition, should to pistoleer forums and watch BadgerSmaker go at it








Message Edited by Cookie-Eater on 09-25-2005 07:13 AM



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Nearro
Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:28 am
#8



Cookie-Eater wrote:


Attacca wrote:

You know that at 1 mil it's cheaper to buy nearly ever single ship?

You know that at 200k its cheaper to buy nearly every vehicle?

Just don't get blown up.

Not possible, I'm human, I make mistakes.

If you have one of the few expensive and hard to replace ships (which would be what, Actis, RGI, Vaksai, maybe heavy X?) try flying something else until you get a little better or reach Ace and can repair in DS.

I dont wanna "try" flying something else because there Ins't another 3 gun 180k mass ship.

On a different note,

What's with all the stupid petitions I'm seeing arise again? Couple in this forum, a few up in JTL. Ya'll do understand they do nothing, and SOE and the Devs have stated numerous times that they ignore them?

Who pissed on your cherios? Chill.

EDIT: Who ever said petitions where for the DEVs? The correspondent is the one that see it and sends his idea to the DEVs. Kinda like the Holster petition, should to pistoleer forums and watch BadgerSmaker go at it




Message Edited by Cookie-Eater on 09-25-2005 07:13 AM




What Nesa is saying about flying a different ship is so true. You're saying you don't want to try flying something different cause there's no other 180k mass 3 gun ship. That right there says you are flying a Rihx, which is a very cheap ship to replace.

As to chassis decay, it really makes no difference if it's full or at 10 (lowest they go). If something has already gotten through your shields and armor, having an 1800 chassis as opposed to a 10 chassis is a matter of maybe one shot. And, if they were already able to get through your shields and armor, you're going to get hit more then once.

And the point on DS is so true. I will never take any of my quested ships out except if I am going to DS. I won't risk them being damaged, so I really don't think we need something that takes even more from shipwrights. Sure, you're saying have shipwrights craft them. But, any moderately intelligent pilot will end up not even looking for them, since they all know that the cost to replace a crafted ship will always be less then the cost of one single kit, at your pricing scheme. Then the reverse is true if you think of lowering the price on the restore kits. People would have no need for new ships, shipwrights wouldn't craft them, and any newer pilot would have (a) one hell of a hard time finding a new ship or (b) to resort to using just RoTW quested ships, which would make space even worse then it already is, since you really don't learn much flying just those.

And I do agree. There seem to be a lot of really odd requests lately. Not sure why either, since the majority of them are quite easily contradicted.



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Cookie-Eater
Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:33 am
#9






Nearro wrote:





Cookie-Eater wrote:







Attacca wrote:

You know that at 1 mil it's cheaper to buy nearly ever single ship?


You know that at 200k its cheaper to buy nearly every vehicle?


Just don't get blown up.


Not possible, I'm human, I make mistakes.


If you have one of the few expensive and hard to replace ships (which would be what, Actis, RGI, Vaksai, maybe heavy X?) try flying something else until you get a little better or reach Ace and can repair in DS.


I dont wanna "try" flying something else because there Ins't another 3 gun 180k mass ship.




On a different note,


What's with all the stupid petitions I'm seeing arise again? Couple in this forum, a few up in JTL. Ya'll do understand they do nothing, and SOE and the Devs have stated numerous times that they ignore them?


Who pissed on your cherios? Chill.


EDIT: Who ever said petitions where for the DEVs? The correspondent is the one that see it and sends his idea to the DEVs. Kinda like the Holster petition, should to pistoleer forums and watch BadgerSmaker go at it









Message Edited by Cookie-Eater on 09-25-2005 07:13 AM





What Nesa is saying about flying a different ship is so true. You're saying you don't want to try flying something different cause there's no other 180k mass 3 gun ship. That right there says you are flying a Rihx, which is a very cheap ship to replace.

As to chassis decay, it really makes no difference if it's full or at 10 (lowest they go). If something has already gotten through your shields and armor, having an 1800 chassis as opposed to a 10 chassis is a matter of maybe one shot. And, if they were already able to get through your shields and armor, you're going to get hit more then once.

And the point on DS is so true. I will never take any of my quested ships out except if I am going to DS. I won't risk them being damaged, so I really don't think we need something that takes even more from shipwrights. Sure, you're saying have shipwrights craft them. But, any moderately intelligent pilot will end up not even looking for them, since they all know that the cost to replace a crafted ship will always be less then the cost of one single kit, at your pricing scheme. Then the reverse is true if you think of lowering the price on the restore kits. People would have no need for new ships, shipwrights wouldn't craft them, and any newer pilot would have (a) one hell of a hard time finding a new ship or (b) to resort to using just RoTW quested ships, which would make space even worse then it already is, since you really don't learn much flying just those.

And I do agree. There seem to be a lot of really odd requests lately. Not sure why either, since the majority of them are quite easily contradicted.




I dont see why if Vehicles got a repair kit, Ships can't.



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Nearro
Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:39 am
#10

Because ships never get disabled to the point of not being able to use them, whereas vehicles do.



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Attacca
Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:59 am
#11

It was my puppy by the way. New dog, poor house training, went straight for the cheerios. Horrid tragedy. Got my oreos too, so don't expect much from me today.


Incidentally, as a matter of forum etiquette, you should understand that petitions are pretty worthless and only waste space. If SOE condoned them, there'd be millions of them on every forum (in fact, once upon a time, there were). It's right up there with the same rules of the road as bothering to search before posting, something experienced users learn (hopefully) quickly.


Your argument is more akin to repair kits for weapons or armor - some things are made to fade with time. If you're in a situation where your special quest ship can be blown up and suffer decay, either accept the risk or don't fly it.


I'm not hugely against repair kits (other than poorly proposed ideas nestled inside a petition format) other than the fact that they would remove the final penalties for death in space, as it is now death is far too cheap up there.






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FilanVader
Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:06 pm
#12

as a master SW id love to be able to make(and sell) ship restore kits.
Kanaras
Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:59 pm
#13

I'm not a complete newb to the game, but I also don't play very often, and have taken large breaks from the game here and there. The last time I resubscribed, I bought JTL, and RotW. I've been a rebel on ground since I joined the GCW, but decided on neutral in space, because I didn't know much at all about it. Recently, I've been getting the urge to switch to Rebel in space, from reading many posts on here, and being able to explore deep space and participate more. I finished the Advanced X-Wing quest last night in my Krayt, and the Vaksai a few hours ago. I knew that components decayed, but I didn't know that chassis' did. I don't know about the other ships save the B-Wing (which is slower than the krayt by a good lot), but all of the equipment on my Krayt would fit on the Advanced X-Wing with room to spare. But if I'm going to chance taking damage and possibly losing my Advanced X-Wing while playing, and in the process the only ship that I had any interest in really pilotting, then what's the point in even switching factions?

I realize that this is a pretty selfish view on it, but I would be ecstatic at having some way of not losing the ship if I for some reason take too much damage. Be it quested, or sold from shipwrights at an extreme price, as long as the possibility is at least there.
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