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Thread: speed vs high mass (awing vs Ywing)

Moge_Tira_Tru
Thu May 12, 2005 5:34 pm
#1

Ive been using my 150k Mass Ywing since I got it. Im now a 4333 and lookign at both the Awing and the Grievous (which I have) and wondering, what are the advantages to a low mass high speed ship?

Even the Xwing is in question. Wish I could get my hands on an Xwing but that I fear is a touch out of my skill level reach.

Anyone care to enlighten to the advantages of even the Grievous?



Moge Tira'Tru Master Rifleman / Ace Rebel Pilot
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Adumar121
Thu May 12, 2005 8:56 pm
#2

go with the xwing


but seriously i would go with the grevious or awing. ywing is just to slow for tier 4. Yes you can kill them but it takes awhile and a lot of fancy piloting. grevious is probibly your best bet. I haven't flowen it but it sounds about the same as an xwing but with 10k less mass and 1 less hard point. Lots of people like the awing, i am not one of them, its to small and fragile in my opinion.



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FataIity
Thu May 12, 2005 9:02 pm
#3

its to small and fragile in my opinion.


damn!... you need some RE'ed Parts, the A-Wing is my fav rebel ride and its a nasty ship in the right hands. Small is good, fragile..... it is not.



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Feife
Thu May 12, 2005 10:23 pm
#4

The Grievious has X-wing (closed wing) speed and handles at least as well as the A-wing...


I look at it as an A-wing with +25k mass and +1 gun.


Moge_Tira_Tru
Thu May 12, 2005 11:12 pm
#5

I was going to write a NM post but I was to busy...flying my Grievious! Wow what a ride!

I loaded it up with mediocre parts and have been tearing up the Missions. Man o man is this thing fast. I actually have to slow down to keep up with tier 5 Awings! It is a little fragile but I usually smack down the heavy hitters faster than they can get behind me.

With the slim body I really only have to worriy about my frint and rear as side hits seem rare.

If you have the means to get one then get one. Turns on a dime and I battle at full throttle, not 1/3 trottle as in my Ywing.

Space is fun again!



Moge Tira'Tru Master Rifleman / Ace Rebel Pilot
Maili Dark Jedi
Moge_Tira_Tru
Fri May 13, 2005 1:07 am
#6

ships decay? Wow learn something every day. I knew parts decayed but not ships. How do I check the status of my ship condition?



Moge Tira'Tru Master Rifleman / Ace Rebel Pilot
Maili Dark Jedi
TomoRainer
Fri May 13, 2005 1:28 am
#7

Chassis decay isn't the end of the world. Its HP are the stat you'll want to watch, but as they shouldn't be able to decay below 10, you'll be able to fly that ship as long as you care to.







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menyou
Fri May 13, 2005 3:11 am
#8

I love the LP for PvE ( and have had some success in bit PvP fights as two big weapons hurt ) fitted with decent kits and two nice guns it rocks. I often don't even bother with missiles although they are nice if you can squeeze them in. X-Wing is ok if you can fit 3 guns in but they tend to end up a bit light due to mass (although the high mass version doesn't have this issue) but even so the lack of convergance does make aiming tricky.

I havn't flown the grevious so don't know what it's weapon placement is like but if it's closer together than an X-Wing then it ought to rock.

The ARC is a fun ship too although hampered by lack of convergance it's a right hoot to fly - I often fly mine just for the buzz.




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Coran_Sienar
Fri May 13, 2005 4:49 am
#9

Lack of convergence only matters if each bolt doesn't do the full damage of the gun. It does. The X-Wing is the hands-down best PvE ship in the Rebel arsenal if you take the time to equip it properly. There are plenty of posts on this forum about equipping an X-Wing.

In PvP with my old X-Wing, I did pretty well. (Don't ask about number of kills or kill ratios...I stopped counting a long time ago.)

That Heavy X-Wing is...unbalanced. That thing should maneuver like a Tie Oppressor/Firespray/Krayt, not like a 100K mass younger sister. But I imagine that if you take the time to pop in an RE'd Reward Shield, 2 RE'd Level 8 guns, a RE'd Level 10 gun and a RE'd Level 8 Reward Engine (from any Freelance), it would kick some serious butt.



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Kirkmeister
Fri May 13, 2005 6:56 am
#10






Lepr0n wrote:


go with the X-wing

grievous is a once in a lifetime ship only... its a shame to decay the hitpoints on it when you cant go to deepspace for decayfree repairs.


the big problem for new pilots is finding good guns with low mass to stick into it. Getting the new questonly 180k mass one would help alot butI dont know if its fixed yet since I dont have one, the 100k mass X-wing is the best pve fighter of all the older ships.

The3 guns on the X creates a firepattern of 2 triangles, one on each side of the cockpit. Its alot easier to hit small targets with an X-wing.


if you just cant decide... get a Y-wing longprobe, more mass than your regular Y-wing and it has both guns pointed forward and an extra missile slot.


the A-wing is weak in pve, 1 gun just doesnt cut it. you can get a RE'd level 8 reward gun into it if you have one though... but i still prefer the other ships.


well... bottom line: get the X-wing, testfly it and your grievous.. if you feel comfortable with the X then use it for the grind up.






I'm sorry, but this is poppycock!!!



Take a look at most of the PvP threads here. The A-wing has the smallest to-hit-profile of all the Rebel ships. The only one even close is the Jedi Star fighter, that rebs cant get yet. Most serious PvPers go with the A-wing. It's not hard to kit out properly, you can use crafted and looted parts. I even managed to get a lvl7 crafted cannon, MkIII protons, decent shields and armour in to mine, and have mass to spare. Yes, the X-wing has fire power, but it's too bloody easy to hit. Yopu cannot go head to head wioth an Oppressor and expect to come off best, try in an A-wing and you will have a bloody good chance. In the right hands, the A-wing is an awsome fighter. I'd PvP in mine all the time if I could.





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Treena_Daal
Fri May 13, 2005 7:35 am
#11

As an Imperial pilot, I strongly endorse the Y-wing. I can hit those.
Lepr0n
Fri May 13, 2005 12:59 pm
#12


go with the X-wing

grievous is a once in a lifetime ship only... its a shame to decay the hitpoints on it when you cant go to deepspace for decayfree repairs.


the big problem for new pilots is finding good guns with low mass to stick into it. Getting the new questonly 180k mass one would help alot butI dont know if its fixed yet since I dont have one, the 100k mass X-wing is the best pve fighter of all the older ships.

The3 guns on the X creates a firepattern of 2 triangles, one on each side of the cockpit. Its alot easier to hit small targets with an X-wing.


if you just cant decide... get a Y-wing longprobe, more mass than your regular Y-wing and it has both guns pointed forward and an extra missile slot.


the A-wing is weak in pve, 1 gun just doesnt cut it. you can get a RE'd level 8 reward gun into it if you have one though... but i still prefer the other ships.


well... bottom line: get the X-wing, testfly it and your grievous.. if you feel comfortable with the X then use it for the grind up.

DarthGorilla
Fri May 13, 2005 1:02 pm
#13



Moge_Tira_Tru wrote:
Ive been using my 150k Mass Ywing since I got it. Im now a 4333 and lookign at both the Awing and the Grievous (which I have) and wondering, what are the advantages to a low mass high speed ship?

Even the Xwing is in question. Wish I could get my hands on an Xwing but that I fear is a touch out of my skill level reach.

Anyone care to enlighten to the advantages of even the Grievous?




Why are you staying in the stock Y-wing? Do you have a dedicated and skilled gunner or something? The Longprobe is a much better ship. Not only do you get 15k more mass but you get two missles and both guns are controlled by the pilot. The A-wing, X-wing, and Y-wing longprobe each have their own PvE rolls. For some missions the A-wing is better but not for all. I've done all my tier 3 and 4 missions in my Longprobe.



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