Pilot Archive
Thread: for those of you wondering the size of the JSF compaired to other ships
That, my friend, is a question that only a deep known of the Force will answer.
2 guns, 90k mass, and better stats than the A-wing. I'll never get tired of saying how much this sucks 
HybridRifter wrote:
My question is, if its that close in size to an A Wing, where the heck is the extra 25k mass?!?
Good Lord, what are they teaching you people in school these days?
Mass and weight are not the same thing, nor are they mutually inclusive.
Mass and size are also not the same thing, nor are they mutually inclusive.
An example: In your left hand, you hold a circular balloon that measures 2 feet in diameter. In your right hand, you hold a solid ball bearing which measures 6 inches in diameter.
Which one has more mass? I'll give you a hint - it's not the balloon.
People really need to stop saying things like *the JSF is smaller than the A-wing, it shouldn't have more mass*...it just makes you sound...uneducated.
quadpers0n wrote:
the guys on the JTL forums will tell you that it's because old hardware is generally better than new hardware. go ask them, they even have real world comparisons to back it up with.
Ahh, Quadperson...I do like your posts, but I do have a bone to pick here.
Is there anyone who wants to even try to claim that American cars are of higher quality now than they were 50 years ago? Anyone? I thought not...
The same could be said of American cars 20 years ago, too.
American business model has shifted away from making quality, high performance products, to mass-producing products that are affordable and...expendable. The top brass at GM and such know that most Americans don't want to drive the same car more than 2, maybe 3 years, before they want (or need) a change.
It's funny how the change in theway America does business, and the way things changed from the Old Republic to the Empire, are strikingly similar...George Lucas had some fun, I think.
What we do care about is the fact that the new RotW fighters are so unbalanced that almost no one flies the originals, anymore. That kinda puts a dent in the Shipwright's business and it also makes PvP fights resemble Clone Wars, not Star Wars.
Coran_Sienar wrote:
Look, we could care less that the SR-71 (built over 30 years ago) is still the fastest jet in the skies. And we don't care that a marble weighs more than a baloon.
What we do care about is the fact that the new RotW fighters are so unbalanced that almost no one flies the originals, anymore. That kinda puts a dent in the Shipwright's business and it also makes PvP fights resemble Clone Wars, not Star Wars.
QFE.
Coran_Sienar wrote:
Look, we could care less that the SR-71 (built over 30 years ago) is still the fastest jet in the skies. And we don't care that a marble weighs more than a baloon.
silverlady wrote:
HybridRifter wrote:
My question is, if its that close in size to an A Wing, where the heck is the extra 25k mass?!?
Good Lord, what are they teaching you people in school these days?
Mass and weight are not the same thing, nor are they mutually inclusive.
Mass and size are also not the same thing, nor are they mutually inclusive.
An example: In your left hand, you hold a circular balloon that measures 2 feet in diameter. In your right hand, you hold a solid ball bearing which measures 6 inches in diameter.
Which one has more mass? I'll give you a hint - it's not the balloon.
People really need to stop saying things like *the JSF is smaller than the A-wing, it shouldn't have more mass*...it just makes you sound...uneducated.
i'm not sure i understand the logic on how it's going to get worse after a WO3 fix. essentially guns of all tiers have comparable energy per shot and reactor drain values. (for arguements sake). if a JSF with a tiny capacitor/reactor suddenly doesn't have enough juice to sustain spraying fire, won't it have to modify it's capacitor to accomodate? won't this force it to lose some of it's other advantages?
conversely, the heavy fighters can equip larger mass (and damage) guns, currently using the same tiny reactor/capacitor combo. they will need to replace their capacitor/reactor as well, but don't they have substantially more leeway in doing so because of more mass? with the end result of still being able to use larger guns?
Since when does the Space Shuttle use Jet engines? And why don't you provide proof that the Aurora is an in-service craft?
Mass is NOT the measurement of an object's density. Mass is a fundamental property of matter. Density is mass per unit volume. I've taught the fricking courses in college. If you'd written that on an exam, you'd get zip, zilch, nada.
Ball bearings and marbles aren't even close to the same thing? Hey, genius, what's a metal marble of uniform density?