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Thread: Loot rate way down..

lordsegan
Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:52 am
#1

Ok.. is it just me, or is the loot rate WAY down since the last patch?



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psikobunny
Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:54 am
#2

It's just you.



Gilack Mehoipou [Bloodfin]


Quintuple Master- Marksman/Squad Leader/Rifleman/Vortex Pilot/Politician


Made it before all hell broke loose.



Ratape
Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:57 pm
#3

It's just you, and probably what you kill. Not to mention I think loot drops go down the longer you're in space. I seem to get quite a few drops when I first get to some of my pirate hunting spots, then after an hour or two, it drops off nearly completely.



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pgm2b2
Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:57 am
#4

I dont know, I think the rate is down considerably.


Had a loot session with 4 other guildies, all in different area's and it defo seemed the loot rate was mush lower.



Farstar
Chewova, Master BH, Master Pistoleer, Alliance Ace Pilot*3
aka
Chyyk, Master Shipwright, Master AS, Master Pilot *3
sillyrack
Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:28 am
#5

Its not the loot rate itself that bothers me its the quility of loot thats been lacking these days.. i get nothing but crap these days.. like lv 10 caps that are 28 rr and 600 energy..!!! what that about??

GregorianPipes
Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:11 am
#6



sillyrack wrote:
Its not the loot rate itself that bothers me its the quility of loot thats been lacking these days.. i get nothing but crap these days.. like lv 10 caps that are 28 rr and 600 energy..!!! what that about??





I agree with this. I get a piece of loot about every 3-4 ships, but its all the worst equipment. I'm finding level 8-10 equipment with worse stats than some level 5-6 components I have/use. I keep hoping to loot some good equipment, but only once in the past month or so I've actually looted something that was better than what I'm using (and my current equipment isn't that great), which was a 13.1 droid interface.



Gregorian Pipes - Rebel Ace Pilot - Bloodfin
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Croll
Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:53 am
#7

Earlier I read a similar message (and may have replied), but now I have to concur that loot drop seems to be way down. In the areas I kill in I used to be able to fill up in under an hour. Now I am lucky to fill up in under 2 or 3 hours. I have not had a "good" piece of loot in a long time, and am beginning to think that the best stuff I have must have been rewards that I just did not know were rewards.



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SinBanik
Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:15 am
#8

I think the loot rate has gotten a bit better actually.....the other day i had been in space for about 2 hrs looting and for about 30 min. every ship I tagged dropped a piece of equipment....as to the quality of it though, it's definitely junk . But then again the chassis vendors don't care what the quality of the component is when I sell it.



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alyris
Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:16 am
#9

I would have agree'd with you, except yesterday I started in on my imperial tree, I was getting loot like crazy, I think I made 4 drop offs (of 25 to a SW I know). Some of it was very nice stuff. In fact I'm using a cannon and a shield that are both better than RE stuff I had.


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psikobunny
Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:33 am
#10

Ok, enough of "seems" and "might" and "used to be" You're all fallen to the bugaboo of Selective Perception if you think it has changed (find a nice psychology website and take a look if you wish).


I did the same thing I did when this post came up and I replied the first time. It's also the same thing I do 2-3 times a week with different characters on different servers. I took a Debris cult Destroy mission and finished it out. I don't bother tallying up my loot normally but here, for the doubters is the list of today's run.


Foe: tier2-3 Debris Cultists

Total loot in inventory: 72 pieces

Lost to full inventory: 1


Armor (16)

Level1: 3

L2: 4

L4: 7

L5: 2

Booster(14)

L1: 3

L2: 5

L3: 1

L4: 1

L5: 3

L6 1

Capacitor(13)

L1: 1

L2: 4

L3: 3

L4: 3

L5: 1

L6: 2

Droid Interface (7)

L2: 3

L3-6: 1 each

Engine (7)

1 each levels 1-6, except 2 L5

Reactor (4)

L1: 1

L2: 1

L6: 2

Shield (6)

L1-2: 2 each

L4: 1

L5: 1

Weapon (5)

L4: 1

L6: 4


This is about normal for this run. Since I don't have my old notes, you're gonna have to take my word. The thing you guys who think its down aren't doing, is taking a fixed mission with a fixed amount of ships and actually counting. You're making guesses, based on higher tier ships, which, ever since the "tier appropriate loot" patch, have been consistently inconsistent. This is normal, if you think about the distribution and the nature of that specific change. Leveled component loot follows a descending scale from L1 to L10. The change in the sytem layered on top of this a distribution curve that has its peak at whatever level of ship you're looting. When I kill tier2-3 ships, I get what is pretty close to a normal distribution for levels 1-6, thankfully its low on the level 1 side most days. When you kill tier 4-5, the peak of your loot curve is at a much higher place on the loot scale. There are far less random rolls that will go your way, and thus far less loot, as a normal thing. If you guys are really interested in tracking this from patch to patch, instead of simply guessing. Pick a higher end Duty mission, one you will be able to do at any time, from now until infinity. Then do it, not just once, but several times, on a regular basis. Track your numbers, and get a reliable idea of how much you "should" be getting. Then, anytime a patch hits, do your regular run, and compare. If it's low and then low on a consistent basis, then you might have something worth posting.



Gilack Mehoipou [Bloodfin]


Quintuple Master- Marksman/Squad Leader/Rifleman/Vortex Pilot/Politician


Made it before all hell broke loose.



Vrond
Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:58 pm
#11

loot runs hot and cold and in the end always balances out. I am bettin you got a sweet cap or something you need one more item to RE so it seems alot longer to you right now



Vrond Novawolf
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pgm2b2
Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:35 pm
#12

hmm Piskobunny, what an interesting post.


I have 3 regular loot runs in 3 different places which i probably have been doing 3 times a week for about the last 6-8weeks.


The simple fact is it is taking at least twice the length of time to get a similair amount of loot.


As to the quality, well its more or less a junk dealers utopia atm


Perhaps you will take my word for it



Farstar
Chewova, Master BH, Master Pistoleer, Alliance Ace Pilot*3
aka
Chyyk, Master Shipwright, Master AS, Master Pilot *3
psikobunny
Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:25 pm
#13

Until you post what you do and where you go in detail, no I wont really take your word for it, sorry.


Vagueness #1 what are you hunting?


Vagueness #2 how long are you hunting?


Vagueness #3 what is a "similar" amount of loot?


I posted exact numbers for what I drew on a specific mission from a specific place and time today, and the only thing I asked people to take my word on was that this specific run against specific mobs for a quantifiable number of trials has not changed since the patch.


You're asking me to believe your perceptions, I'm asking you to believe numbers which are accurate, just unavailable.



Gilack Mehoipou [Bloodfin]


Quintuple Master- Marksman/Squad Leader/Rifleman/Vortex Pilot/Politician


Made it before all hell broke loose.



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