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Thread: Quick question about equipping my tie advanced?

Azarken
Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:45 pm
#1

currently running a few thou over mass which means having to go with a lesser 20 second droid interface. i have 2x 13-14k lvl 7 re'd guns in there which seem my most obvious choices to cut mass from. is it worth going to crafted for speed lvl 6 blasters till i can get some good ones re'd?


im running a lvl 2 re'd booster and cap. all low mass. lvl 1 re'd armour. lvl 7 crafted shield. 16kish mass. lvl 6 re'd engine 9.1k mass. lvl 1 reactor 1.3k mass. so guns seem the most obvious choice to me.


advice please!


also is it worth working mega hard on this seeing as the oppressor is just round the corner?



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Ducimus
Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:33 pm
#2

2K over 65K mass?

How heavy is your DI?

Your T/A sounds about like mine did, only i have a lvl 1 DI in it. Granted it's a prenerf, but prenerf or not, the DI is where i'd take the mass out of. A good, crafted DI, made with the absoletly best resources is what i would personnaly look for.

Downside is, running overloads will be slow, and you'll have to be more pick about when you shunt.

EDIT:
The other option i would consider is dumbing down the shield to a MK III. However this will Depend on how much you tend to get hit.

Message Edited by Ducimus on 08-30-2005 06:35 PM



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imppilot421
Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:41 pm
#3






Ducimus wrote:
2K over 65K mass?

How heavy is your DI?

Your T/A sounds about like mine did, only i have a lvl 1 DI in it. Granted it's a prenerf, but prenerf or not, the DI is where i'd take the mass out of. A good, crafted DI, made with the absoletly best resources is what i would personnaly look for.

Downside is, running overloads will be slow, and you'll have to be more pick about when you shunt.

EDIT:
The other option i would consider is dumbing down the shield to a MK III. However this will Depend on how much you tend to get hit.

Message Edited by Ducimus on 08-30-2005 06:35 PM





Yeah, I agree on the shield and DI thing.


Here is what I run in a T/A:


2x RE level 7 boltdrivers (14kish mass each)


Mark 3 shield with around 1200-1300 front/back hp


Level 8 RE QID engine


Prenerf L1 DI


Level 1 Reactor (Crafted)


Level 4 Booster (REed)


Level 2 Capacitor (REed)


Works well for PvE.


admiraljz
Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:56 pm
#4






Azarken wrote:

currently running a few thou over mass which means having to go with a lesser 20 second droid interface. i have 2x 13-14k lvl 7 re'd guns in there which seem my most obvious choices to cut mass from. is it worth going to crafted for speed lvl 6 blasters till i can get some good ones re'd?


im running a lvl 2 re'd booster and cap. all low mass. lvl 1 re'd armour. lvl 7 crafted shield. 16kish mass. lvl 6 re'd engine 9.1k mass. lvl 1 reactor 1.3k mass. so guns seem the most obvious choice to me.


advice please!


also is it worth working mega hard on this seeing as the oppressor is just round the corner?






Keep the guns, lose the armor, drop the level 7 shield to a nice level 5. And fly like you mean it






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Ducimus
Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:07 pm
#5

Don't lose the armor.

It does make a difference. Even MK I armor has saved me from the fire more then once.



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Kyrillos
Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:11 pm
#6

Ducimus is right. It's worth setting aside 1 or 2k mass for a little armor, unless it's really going to make a serious difference elsewhere.



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Azarken
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:13 am
#7

my DI is about 6.6k mass i think. its a 14.2 speed crafted one. so not much i can do there. or is that high mass? should i shop around a little more?


and ok dropping down to a lower shield is a good idea i'll give that a whirl.


Is it me though or does the ship feel somewhat sluggish compared to the previous ships? i took it up for a spin and it seemd a little slow. perhaps it was just my imagination.



also do most people tend to switch to the oppressor once they get master?



Azarken Talamasca

BoFa-ST
Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:32 am
#8

i think you can still loot low mass DI. slow an all but..


i have a few that are 500mass, 15spd. hear of ppl still finding them on bazaars.


6.6k is way to heavy for a DI imo





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Kalia
Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:35 am
#9

6.6k mass at 14.2 speed DI... seems a little heavy to me. I'm not ingame now, but I'm 99% certain that my DI weighs close to half that and is still under 20 seconds, and it's not a prenerf.



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Ralen-Sharr
Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:37 am
#10

drop the booster

you won't really loose anything other than boost, you still hit as hard, still take as much, and you keep the fast shunting



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RedOnedi
Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:01 am
#11

Oh, how I loved (and miss) my TIe Advanced...one of my favorite ships to fly.


Your question on it's sluggishness...in my experience, the T/A has a sweet spot that's around 80% on the throttle...start a turn, get in this zone, and watch as you take off. It's what I call a *streaker*, meaning, it makes its bestturns at higher speeds (throttle settings) than other ships. The A-wing seemed to have a similar behavior. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what my experience was. If you try to make the throttle back turns like most other ships use, it will be very sluggish.


On the loadout: I did not have, and still don't have, a Boltdriver RE, so I used a pair of decent level 6 RE'd guns, and they did the job quite nicely. I can't remember what mark 3 and 4 shields weigh in at, but I used a nice level 6 shield that was about 10-11k mass, with 1500ish front/back. Armek Plasma S6 was the name, if I remember right. This was not an RE, but at some point it will probably become part of one. I don't have exact numbers, but I'll try to list the broad strokes of my loadout.


Reactor - 13.5 gen, 2kish mass


Cap - 900ish, 34ish regen, 1kish mass


Engine - Level 6 RE


Shield - Level 6 Armek Plasma S6, 10-11k mass, 1500ish front/back


Weapons - Pair of level 6 RE's, about 10k mass each


Booster - Level 2 or 4, if I remember right...still have not done a level 4 booster RE


Armor - roughly 700/500, about 3k mass each, if I remember right


DI - while I do have a prenerf DI, I refused to use it on my pilot regrinds...get ready for this...16 seconds, 8k mass


CM - installed


No missles


Now clearly, by replacing the DI (even with the 1k mass, 20 second crafted one I use for lower tiers), I could either add missles, or make a substantial upgrade to a weapon, booster, etc, if I had the parts, which I don't. Even so, I was hugely successful in this ship, both in PvE and PvP. My PvP experience is not large by any use of that word, but I was undefeated while I used the T/A. With this setup, I went head to head with an Advanced X-wing, and survived to win the encounter. You want to know what the absolute best part about the T/A was for me?





















It showed me just how utterly ass my Actis setup was...with the exception of engine, my T/A was on par, or better than my Actis. That was a huge, huge wake-up call, and I promptly made some changes. Not because I fly my Actis often (which I don't), but having a crappy Actis is, well...embarassing.


Learn to fly the T/A, and I guarantee you will come to like it. Imho, it is one of the better ships in the game, regardless of PvE or PvP.


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admiraljz
Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:21 am
#12






RedOnedi wrote:

Your question on it's sluggishness...in my experience, the T/A has a sweet spot that's around 80% on the throttle...start a turn, get in this zone, and watch as you take off. It's what I call a *streaker*, meaning, it makes its bestturns at higher speeds (throttle settings) than other ships. The A-wing seemed to have a similar behavior. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what my experience was. If you try to make the throttle back turns like most other ships use, it will be very sluggish.








I was going to post someting along the same lines, but you beat me to it. It's easy to get used to turning a ship at 50% or 60% throttle, since that's where most of them do their best handling. I swear, the A-Wing is an absolute mutt at anything less than 100% throttle. Makes dogfighting in PvE pretty tricky with em. Same goes for the Advanced and Interceptor.


To the OP: run that sucker at full or near full throttle and see if your performance improves





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admiraljz
Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:25 am
#13






Azarken wrote:

my DI is about 6.6k mass i think. its a 14.2 speed crafted one. so not much i can do there. or is that high mass? should i shop around a little more?






Sounds like a pretty nice crafted MK4, and that's typical mass. Usually they go around 15.5 command speed. You could keep it as long as you have mass to spare. A faster DI will give you a shorter setup time after launch, and less time between shunting your shields.


I have found, though, that running a 15.x speed DI, that my capacitor usually doesn't recharge fully before the DI is ready to shunt again. This makes the shunting a little less effective. You may be able to go to a slower DI, around 20 speed or so, and get by just fine, if you still need to trim some mass.





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