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Thread: The YT

Just_Bri
Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:38 pm
#1
OK, color me disapointed. I arranged to be taken up in a YT-1300 today to see what it looked like on the inside, and I find out that the deckplan is not even close to canon. It is WAY too small on the inside.








I was sort of expecting them to get it wrong, so I can't say I was supprised.


On an unrelated note, I also believe from the screen shots I have seen that the KSE Firespray is ( in SWG ) a single person ship. Acording to the stats in the West End and Wizards of the Coast RPGs, this ship should be POB as it supports a crew of up to six. The interior of this ship isn't as documented as the Falcon, but there is a group that makes deckplans using avaialable pictures of ships that can be found here, and they have an awesome deckplan for the Firespray in one section of that site.

Message Edited by Just_Bri on 07-13-2005 11:45 PM



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murphy-fuzzynuts
Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:58 pm
#2

they give you lemons, make lemonade man, that's all you can do


Im fine with the layout of the ship myself, just cozy enough





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SheenaBrelya
Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:21 pm
#3
The ship designers working on the YT had a rough time because there was so much information already available about the ship. They essentially went back to the movies, took notice of all the interior and exterior shots of the Falcon, and decided that there was no way to get all of those rooms and passageways into the size ship used for exterior shots... there went movie canon.

Because the YT will exist in space the way a house does on the ground, it can not be "larger" on the inside than the exterior model allows. That became the restriction for space, as the only way to make more was to blow the model of the YT entirely out of scale with other ships.

What was done with the available space has been argued before, but it is not going to change, so please try to make the best of it.

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Just_Bri
Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:25 pm
#4
Methinks we need a CU for space...


But thank you for the reply.

Message Edited by Just_Bri on 07-14-2005 01:27 AM



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SheenaBrelya
Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:33 pm
#5

Just_Bri wrote:
Methinks we need a CU for space...

Why would you think that?

Shona
Just_Bri
Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:39 pm
#6
It isn't so much the combat systems, that I don't really have an issue with. The scale is totally out-of-whack though, on things from ship sizes ( not just the YT ) to the size of the space zones themselves. that and the fact that you can have an Imperial and a Rebel space station practicly in spitting distance of each other... It isn't by any means "all broke" but it isn't all good either.



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Just_Bri
Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:10 am
#7
"Im fine with the layout of the ship myself, just cozy enough"


I really think you would like the YT-2400. From your statment it seems it would be the perfect size for you.



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Lord_Raven
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:36 am
#8
the inside of the ship was the first thing i noticed when i got mine.. thought it was close to the movie one but somethign wasnt right. after watching the movies a few times i soon noticed they gave us only part of the ship and the parts they gave were smaller. .. and no the ships scale isnt right the cockpit is right but the rest of the ship is to small ... i have compaired 2 movie model pics to an external view of my ship and its easy to see that the ship isnt the right size.. they did it because they are lazy, and they dont care enough about what they make ..."good enough for government work" this kind of reminds me of the dev team



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Treena_Daal
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:46 am
#9
Of course. The devs don't care about this game.

/whap

Gods, I'm sick of this attitude. "The devs changed something, so they obviously don't care about the game!" Nevermind that a full-sized YT would have been much too big for the space zones we have. Nevermind that POB ships are too big to be really effective already. No, the devs should have made them bigger, so they'd be that much easier to destroy.

Some of you need to familiarize yourself with the term "technological limitations". I'm sure they would have loved to have everything be full-sized and with the correct interior. I'm sure they'd love to have systems big enough to take an hour to cross at full speed with the fastest engine available. But it simply isn't feasable to do that with the technology we have.
ajag
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:48 am
#10
If you compare the Krayt to the YT, you will see the Krayt is just a bit smaller than the YT which makes no sense at all. All the POB ships should be larger.




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Washell
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:58 am
#11


Lucas commisioned a exterior design on the Falcon and approved it. Lucas also commisioned an intererior design on the Falcon and approved it.


Did the fact that the interior was bigger then the exterior matter? No, not for the movie. Did the subsequent changes to the falcon's interior matter when EP5/EP6 plot demanded it? No, not for the movies.


Since then toymakers and gamemakers had the problem to make the exterior size match the interior. It can't be done since the orginal doesn't match. They used 2 scales and you can't use 2 scales in a toy you can take the top off or a 3D game.


Edit: There isn't one deckplan made of the falcon everyone agrees with as being correct.

Message Edited by Washell on 07-14-2005 02:08 PM

Higginsis
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:37 am
#12
Add to the fact that the Millenium Falcon was so heavily modified its barely recognisable from the stock model.



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werehere
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:48 am
#13

I really want the firespray to be a mp ship i can hold a [assenger or like six in tank as prisoners it should it is in the movies , THe firespray kinda sucks now and it could take on a jsf in the movie but nothing close to the game i want my seismic charge rooms in my firespray and make it like the movies


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