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comparing hyped RotW ships to hyped RotW ships won't get you anywhere. If you'd been in a normal X or an A, you might have a point.

Message Edited by psikobunny on 05-23-2005 01:26 AM

good point psiko, but it felt good. considering my pvp skills arent top notch either

Sucks to be him - 90k of mass and he can't fit a 900 unit chaff dispenser?

I can fit an REed L6 prenerf, two REed L4 armor plates, an REed L8 reward shield, an REed L8/L6 or L8/L7 weapon combo, and STILL have room for the chaff launcher, and a Mk2 ImRec, Mk4 Proton, or pre-nerf Mk2 Spacebomb launcher (not that I usually have them equipped, the beeping and 'twinkling' drives me insane).

I can fit 2P/1M, but I need to use RO2 to do it.

For the first time in months, I know what it feels like to strap into a zonal dominance fighter. And I know how to use the damned thing, too. And don't even start with the "Oppressor" BS - that thing was a SCHOOL BUS compared to an Advanced.

I swear to God, if whiners take one of the only things away that's keeping me around, it won't be SOE's dead the coroner'll be counting.

What's next? You kill the JSF, and not only will it hurt the current glut of space concentration, but you'll force everyone into the Heavies, and then we'll hear b*tching about the Z-95 and how "IT'S NOT FAIR" that the streams are so far apart.

You got the AT-ST nerfed THREE TIMES (four, if you count the POSes they are now - but I don't fault Rebels for that one).

If you're Rebel, switch ranks, go Imperial, get the deed, and relevel on Smuggler's Alliance so you can use the JSF and use the Heavy Scyk to powerlevel.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 05-23-2005 11:14 PM

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CuchulainnDarklight wrote:

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KaylBreinhar wrote:

What's next? You kill the JSF, and not only will it hurt the current glut of space concentration, but you'll force everyone into the Heavies, and then we'll hear b*tching about the Z-95 and how "IT'S NOT FAIR" that the streams are so far apart.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 05-23-2005 11:14 PM

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Good point, thats why the new ROTW ships need to be balanced as soon as possible so we dont end up with them being removed one by one or, god help us all, we end up with a space CU!

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You do know your argument is tantamount to a doctor saying "that paper cut looks pretty nasty, let's take off the whole arm just to be safe."

KaylBreinhar,

Can we keep this "us vs them" (imp player vs rebel player) rhetoric down? Please? Or at least save it for the GCW forum and your server forum? Contrary to what some may believe, not everyone is a diehard Imperial or rebel fanboy out to nerf the other faction into oblivion.

It's not about just the JSF either. It's about all the new ROTW ships that are hypermanuverable, its just that for PvP reasons, the JSF has become the posterboy - so it gets most of the "press".

Ducimus:

But that's what's driving this. The bulk of the detractors could care less about balance. If both sides could [easily] get their hands on the JSF, we wouldn't be HAVING this argument, and you damn well know it.

You can't ignore the "us vs. them" because that's WHAT THIS IS. This is the "AT-ST in Space" argument.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 05-23-2005 11:51 PM

Message Edited by CuchulainnDarklight on 05-23-2005 08:56 PM

And you've got about as much chance of getting the new ships nerfed as you do getting an Alliance Star Destroyer added to the game 20 years early. And it's not because of unfairness.

Don't you get it - these new ships weren't meant as a reward for US, the veteran players, they were meant for the newbies! Why do you think no NPC in the JSF quest tops L35 and no SHIP enemy tops Tier 3?

Consequently, as I've said in a LOT of posts as of late, I don't see how the throngs of newbies SOE's expecting are going to even KNOW about this game - SOE hasn't spent a single dollar advertising it - whereas they're sponsoring a "Quest for Antonia" lookalike contest through Stuff magazine for EQ2. Where's the pomp and circumstance for SWG now that EP3 is out? Don't they even think it's worth getting people to fish for the 24.99-29.99 just for the profit?

We're fighting because the Devs thought it'd be more attractive to keep newbies interested by handing them superpowered Tier 1 and Quest-Awarded ships (which would be important to a newbie strapped for cash just starting out) to allow them to level in a QUARTER of the time it took us.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 05-24-2005 12:12 AM

At the moment im a rebel pilot. For how long i can't say. (id say the same if i was still an imp pilot) Im about as unpredictable as the weaither But even if i could currently get a JSF, id still say they need to be toned down... at least the YPR being equal to a Tie Advanced or Interceptor. 10.2 (if i remember correct) is WAAAAYYYY out of whack.

In my mind, the best example of how far out of scale these new ships are, is acutally the Imperial heavy. Think about it.

Novice:. 95K mass, twice the YPR of a T/I or T/A.
Teir 1: T/F 20K mass
Teir 2: T/ln 40K mass
teir 3: T/I 50K mass
Teir 4: T/A 65K mass.

Doesnt that seem out of whack to you? Why bother getting ANY other imperial ship excepting maybe a T/B? The whole imperial lineup is obsolete from the word go.

The only drawback is the .95 speed modifier. But again, this isn't for us - it's for the newbies. JTL is a "mini-game" to them (them = SOE), something that just MIGHT keep new subscribers interested for a second month and additional 14.99.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 05-23-2005 11:59 PM

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Ducimus wrote:

Doesnt that seem out of whack to you? Why bother getting ANY other imperial ship excepting maybe a T/B? The whole imperial lineup is obsolete from the word go.

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As is the freelancer and rebel pilot profession lineup, I mean who doesnt want the mass of an Xwing with TWICE the manouverability of an Awing!