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Thread: There are no problems with the new ships
RPG systems are turn based, JTL is twitch based. They are inheirantly different systems. one system skill is derived from your character template, the other skill is dervied from your ablities as a player. Hence the term, "twitch"
Anarchy online is a RPG, not a twitch game. Comparsions and contrats to standard MMORPGs do not apply to JTL. If you want a more closer comparision, you might want to look at the MMOFPS by the name of planetside. Its also a twitch game and introduces new weaponry. Most of which had to be "adjusted" for one reason or another.
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Ryuukon wrote:
I do not fly any of the new ships, nor do I PVP often.
Hear that? That was the sound of your crediblity flying out the window.
Message Edited by Ducimus on 05-24-2005 04:25 PM
Ducimus, most of the players I've encountered with the new ships don't pvp at all. I've run into alot of them in deepspace farming faction and first thing that gets asked is "can i please be left alone" or "I'm only here for pve".
Thank you Ducimus for bringing up Planetside. Yes it's a twitch game like JTL is. But let me ask you this... When they introduce the expansions for Planetside are the items more powerful/useful than what is already available in the game? Yes they are. Why? Because it creates incentive to buy. What are they at now, the 3rd expansion on Planetside? If you say all the items introduced are the same as in the original game with only cosmetic changes I'll say you're a liar.
Another thing I'd like to point out is I said MMOs, not MMORPGs, there's a big difference.
As I said, if the ships need balancing, it should only apply to balancing with the new ships. Otherwise if they balance them with the old ships in mind, what is the incentive for the JTL players to buy the expansion? There is none. I'm just playing devil's advocate here. In a perfect world we could all be happy with everything but this isn't a perfect world. SOE isn't going to balance the new ships to suit the players who are happy with the old ones. They want money, plain and simple. Buying a new expansion is equivelent to 2 months of game play with most expansions, especially with SOE. That's 2 months up front revenue.
And again, as I said in my original post from a storyline point of view the A-wing SHOULD be superior to the JSF. Logic dictates that the newer technology would be superior to a 20 some odd year old ship. But logic holds little sway in a fantasy setting such as this where it can have a direct impact on real life profits.
Message Edited by TUMOS_GHOST on 05-24-2005 08:10 PM
NHGLethos wrote:
you right in principle... but the two quest avaiable... one for just imps and the other just for rebels... the JSF and the arc.the JSF easily beats a Arc 170, no question about it, with two pilots of equal skill.If they was avaiable to both sides, like they should be, this wouldn't be a big deal, but they aren't, atleast at the moment.
I do not agree with that comment, if you have a crew experience with your flying style, and experience with using the ARC turrets, you will be a formidable enemy to anything
Ryuukon wrote:
Oh, as a side note, my credibility has no bearing here. Ask anyone who has played MMOs to any extent and is familiar with expansions. Expansions = new content and new items. If the new items are useless or the same as what is already available, that creates doubt as to the reasons to purchase the expansion in the first place.
Introducing new items that make old items obsolete is not neccessary. Nobody is saying dont introduce new content and items etc. We just want there to be some logic and balance to it so it fits in the game. As it is now this just screws up the content IMO.
Introducing tier 1 ships that out perform tier 4 ships = lame and out of line with existing content
making JSF imperial only = lame and out of line with exisisting content
If the DEV's had a clue about content it would have been done differently.
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Electro5 wrote:
They can be slightly better, they don't have to be better by leaps and bounds over the old.Did you never consider that many people would buy the expansion for new content, not just so they can own anyone who doesn't have it and stand toe to toe with anyone who does? Or, maybe some people just want new stuff. I know I do. New stuff is cool, it doesn't have to be uber for people to use it.
/hi5
FataIity wrote:Ducimus, most of the players I've encountered with the new ships don't pvp at all. I've run into alot of them in deepspace farming faction and first thing that gets asked is "can i please be left alone" or "I'm only here for pve".
Thats when i disable their reactor, and leave them alone. *evil grin*
I do not expect, nor do i give quarter while overt.