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Thread: JSF mass capacity

MadMox
Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:35 pm
#1

Maybe it's just me and the components I have, but I can't find an effective equipment combo for the JSF. I keep overloading the mass. What components are you all using for this ship? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

Message Edited by MadMox on 09-29-2005 04:24 AM





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Rhu
Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:56 pm
#2


The JSF is a bit high on mass, given its size, weapon loadout, and handling, as far as most are concerned. But, what the heck... Let's see if I can come up with a setup that will work out nicely for you.




If you have to go with all crafted components:


Engine: L9, 33k mass. Look for one with a good balance between speed and maneuverability. Those 119 speed engines? They're junk. Pick up some with YP or YR or PR above 72, depending on how you fly. (Personally, I'd go for a PR, but that's just how I fly.).


Shield: L7: 14k mass. 1900+ f/b.


Guns: 2x L7: 14k mass. Faster guns are better for as long as this WO3 bug lasts.


Reactor: If you want to run EO4 withthat crafted engine,you're going to have to go for a cert 5 and RO4 it. Around 8k mass.


Capacitor, Booster: L1 crafted. 2k mass.


Armor: L3 reenforced f/b. 5k mass.


That should put you right up at the limit. Enjoy.



Message Edited by Rhu on 09-28-2005 09:57 PM

Thunderbyte
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:04 pm
#3






MadMox wrote:
Maybe it's just me and the components I have, but I can't find an effective equipment combo for the JSF. I keep overloading the mass. What components are you all using for this ship? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.





You must be a Freelance Pilot


Considering my main ship is about 25k less mass than the JSF, I probably wouldn't complain. And yes I am a master pilot, and yes I do PvP.





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Bawarr
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:23 pm
#4

Get rid of junk parts, like armor, missles, chaff (for PvE anyway) maybe boosters.

All you need is a good engine/shield and weapons and if you cant fit that into 90k mass......





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jimbrown
Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:03 pm
#5






Rhu wrote:



Reactor: If you want to run EO4 withthat crafted engine,you're going to have to go for a cert 5 and RO4 it. Around 8k mass.






Message Edited by Rhu on 09-28-2005 09:57 PM





i use a mark 1 crafted reactor... 12.4k energy, 1k mass. and i run EO4.


now... when/if WO3 is ever fixed, it'll make that impossible. it does help that i use one RE'd LvL 7, and one RE'd LvL 8, which are much less drain than a player-made.


in fact, the only player-made component i run in my JSF, is the reactor, the booster, and the DI.



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FLMOPE
Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:06 pm
#6

The mass on the JSF is fine. You just need to educate yourself more about components. List your loadout and let people tear it apart. In doing so they will tell you what works for them.


Find someone who flies a JSF or similar chassis. Ask them what they are using. Compare it with what you have now.


Basic guildline.


Best Engine you can find. Preferably a RE lvl 8. If you aren't going to PVP right now drop down to a good lvl 6 RE. This might be easier to find


Shield protecto-net REed shield Lvl 7. Even a good crafted lvl 7 will do. Some will say lvl 8 but given the lack of low level mass shields I have seen this may not be feasible.


Weapons: Best you can fit. REs lvl 7 or maybe even a 8 and 7 if you can get them really low mass. But like the shield, Lvl 7 crafted guns will do. Best imho are speed crafted


Capacitor No higher than lvl 4. With Droid commands the way they are you will never run out of juice.


Reactor: I run LVL 1 crafted unless I really need more power to run EO4


DI: Pre-nerf if you can find it but even a current looted and crafted will do.


Missles: your option. Fit if you have room


Chaff: PVE maybe not but PVP you should at least load a basic chaff dispenser


Armor. As much as you can with the remaining mass. If you load out your ship correctly you will have room for armor. Good lvl 4 REs will be less than 2k in wait and give more than 600 points of protection. Even Mark II crafted is better than none. Don't go without just because it is macho or your guildie says he never loads it. You will be surprised the number of times even 600 points of armor will save your butt.



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jimbrown
Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:22 pm
#7






FLMOPE wrote:

The mass on the JSF is fine. You just need to educate yourself more about components. List your loadout and let people tear it apart. In doing so they will tell you what works for them.


Find someone who flies a JSF or similar chassis. Ask them what they are using. Compare it with what you have now.


Basic guildline.


Best Engine you can find. Preferably a RE lvl 8. If you aren't going to PVP right now drop down to a good lvl 6 RE. This might be easier to find


Shield protecto-net REed shield Lvl 7. Even a good crafted lvl 7 will do. Some will say lvl 8 but given the lack of low level mass shields I have seen this may not be feasible.


Weapons: Best you can fit. REs lvl 7 or maybe even a 8 and 7 if you can get them really low mass. But like the shield, Lvl 7 crafted guns will do. Best imho are speed crafted


Capacitor No higher than lvl 4. With Droid commands the way they are you will never run out of juice.


Reactor: I run LVL 1 crafted unless I really need more power to run EO4


DI: Pre-nerf if you can find it but even a current looted and crafted will do.


Missles: your option. Fit if you have room


Chaff: PVE maybe not but PVP you should at least load a basic chaff dispenser


Armor. As much as you can with the remaining mass. If you load out your ship correctly you will have room for armor. Good lvl 4 REs will be less than 2k in wait and give more than 600 points of protection. Even Mark II crafted is better than none. Don't go without just because it is macho or your guildie says he never loads it. You will be surprised the number of times even 600 points of armor will save your butt.



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i tend to load mine out with a LvL 8 RE gun and a LvL 7 RE gun, as well as the lvl 8 reward shield RE'd *only got it down to 27k, best i could do lol* so i use a lvl 6 RE engine (73 ypr, 86 top speed, 9k mass)



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FLMOPE
Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:26 pm
#8






jimbrown wrote:






FLMOPE wrote:

The mass on the JSF is fine. You just need to educate yourself more about components. List your loadout and let people tear it apart. In doing so they will tell you what works for them.


Find someone who flies a JSF or similar chassis. Ask them what they are using. Compare it with what you have now.


Basic guildline.


Best Engine you can find. Preferably a RE lvl 8. If you aren't going to PVP right now drop down to a good lvl 6 RE. This might be easier to find


Shield protecto-net REed shield Lvl 7. Even a good crafted lvl 7 will do. Some will say lvl 8 but given the lack of low level mass shields I have seen this may not be feasible.


Weapons: Best you can fit. REs lvl 7 or maybe even a 8 and 7 if you can get them really low mass. But like the shield, Lvl 7 crafted guns will do. Best imho are speed crafted


Capacitor No higher than lvl 4. With Droid commands the way they are you will never run out of juice.


Reactor: I run LVL 1 crafted unless I really need more power to run EO4


DI: Pre-nerf if you can find it but even a current looted and crafted will do.


Missles: your option. Fit if you have room


Chaff: PVE maybe not but PVP you should at least load a basic chaff dispenser


Armor. As much as you can with the remaining mass. If you load out your ship correctly you will have room for armor. Good lvl 4 REs will be less than 2k in wait and give more than 600 points of protection. Even Mark II crafted is better than none. Don't go without just because it is macho or your guildie says he never loads it. You will be surprised the number of times even 600 points of armor will save your butt.



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Shipwright


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i tend to load mine out with a LvL 8 RE gun and a LvL 7 RE gun, as well as the lvl 8 reward shield RE'd *only got it down to 27k, best i could do lol* so i use a lvl 6 RE engine (73 ypr, 86 top speed, 9k mass)





IMHO a lvl 6 engine does just fine for 90%+ of PVE. Not sure I would take that to PVE but what the heck.


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IL-Vec
Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:31 pm
#9






jimbrown wrote:





Rhu wrote:



Reactor: If you want to run EO4 withthat crafted engine,you're going to have to go for a cert 5 and RO4 it. Around 8k mass.






Message Edited by Rhu on 09-28-2005 09:57 PM





i use a mark 1 crafted reactor... 12.4k energy, 1k mass. and i run EO4.


now... when/if WO3 is ever fixed, it'll make that impossible. it does help that i use one RE'd LvL 7, and one RE'd LvL 8, which are much less drain than a player-made.


in fact, the only player-made component i run in my JSF, is the reactor, the booster, and the DI.




need I say more




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jimbrown
Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:59 pm
#10






IL-Vec wrote:





jimbrown wrote:





Rhu wrote:



Reactor: If you want to run EO4 withthat crafted engine,you're going to have to go for a cert 5 and RO4 it. Around 8k mass.






Message Edited by Rhu on 09-28-2005 09:57 PM





i use a mark 1 crafted reactor... 12.4k energy, 1k mass. and i run EO4.


now... when/if WO3 is ever fixed, it'll make that impossible. it does help that i use one RE'd LvL 7, and one RE'd LvL 8, which are much less drain than a player-made.


in fact, the only player-made component i run in my JSF, is the reactor, the booster, and the DI.




need I say more






no, but i definately need to read more



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AustinEverett
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:19 pm
#11

Acctually its a damn good ship.. almost as good as the bullba ... althought they are basically the same ship. The JSF and the bullba have the same mass... but to be honest if you want the best you gotta get yourself a Vak!!!


It may only have one gun slot but you can place a damn big gun in it and, a big engine in it to outfly every JSF and Bullba in the game.






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Kryxal
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:36 pm
#12






MadMox wrote:
Maybe it's just me and the components I have, but I can't find an effective equipment combo for the JSF. I keep overloading the mass. What components are you all using for this ship? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.




It's just you. Go outfit a T/A, THEN complain about mass - think JSFless25k.



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broncoblitz
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:43 pm
#13

If you want to really feel like an Ace, load up a 40k kihrax and blow up the ISD. When i did that, i completed my goal of blowing up the ISD with every freelance and Rebel ship but the 12k start ones.



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