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Thread: for those of you wondering the size of the JSF compaired to other ships
FalinMor wrote:
Yeah, that was the special thing about the A-Wing. It took real talent to squeeze out all of its potential... but if you could do it, it was a nightmare to go against one.The JSF takes a lot of that skill right out of the equation.
Talent doesnt leave the pilot when he jumps into a JSF. It just makes him more of a monster to go against.
silverlady wrote:The Aurora does not exist.
You have proof of this, I assume?
Honestly, it sounds like your opinion vs my opinion, neither of which is based on hard proof.
I also misspoke when I mentioned the Aurora...I made it sound as if *this* was the replacement, in fact I did state that right out. However, I also said that *we have something better*, and if it's not the Aurora, then something else. The SR-71 was taken out of service for a reason...meaning, we have something that performs the same function better/more effeciently. An unmanned spyplane, perhaps?
Oh, and the shuttle does have incendiary-typeengines...they are not used in orbit, but they are there.
One last note on the shuttle - it can be considered an aircraft, and it's orbital speed is over 17k mph...last I checked, Mach 6 was about 4440...
Puh-leeze. The SR-71's retirement coincided with the widespread use of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles. When you think about the fact that a UAV can do the exact same mission (as far as reconnaisance) without risking a human pilot, it is certainly more attractive to the brass. The Aurora (while sexier than a droid flying overhead) doesn't have a single picture taken of it in the 15 years that it's supposedly been in service. So far, it's just a dream that some Popular Mechanics "journalist" cooked up after he heard about the SR-71's retirement. And you're asking for proof that it doesn't exist? Why?
There have been some unmanned vehicle tests using scram jets that have exceeded the speed of the SR-71. However, those sure as heck weren't the Aurora.
The shuttle also uses ROCKETS, not JETS. And its maximum speed is achieved outside of the atmosphere. To date there is no JET that can match the performance of the Blackbird.
Why exactly are you trying to defend an incorrect statement?
Coran_Sienar wrote:
To date there is no JET that can match the performance of the Blackbird.
Too True the SR-71 still holds the highest manned atmospheric flight record officially. don't build em like they used to
oh and to stir the pot a little remember the avro arrow was to the F18 what the A wing is to a Y wing. It was insanely ahead of it's day and the company got bought out and shut down 
And one last thing coran you gonna be on this afternoon/evening?
silverlady wrote:
I don't believe anyone is disagreeing with any of your points Falin, nor has anything to that effect been stated.
However, I do believe I remember the A-wing being called the *cheater ship* once upon a time...maybe my memory is bad, though.
Message Edited by LeaphChausew on 09-01-2005 02:22 PM
Your LUCKY to have a ship that has the attributes to remain compedative in the post ROTW game.
1.) The A wing is STILL small and hard to hit. Scroll up, and youll find that it is the only ship comparitive in size to the JSF, albiet the JSF is *slightly* smaller.
2.) 65K (66K) mass is just enough to fit in a QID and not give up much.
3.) decent guns spread
Point one is like having a piece of cake, point two is the frosting, point three is having sprinkles on your cake, the whole thing is still very tasty. Now scuse me while i go cry in a corner and mourn the death of my Interceptor.
Ducimus wrote:
When it comes to the A wing, and the "I fly a pre ROTW fighter" chestbeating, im going to have to point something out. (not targeting you leaph, just in general)
Your LUCKY to have a ship that has the attributes to remain compedative in the post ROTW game.
1.) The A wing is STILL small and hard to hit. Scroll up, and youll find that it is the only ship comparitive in size to the JSF, albiet the JSF is *slightly* smaller.
2.) 65K (66K) mass is just enough to fit in a QID and not give up much.
3.) decent guns spread
Point one is like having a piece of cake, point two is the frosting, point three is having sprinkles on your cake, the whole thing is still very tasty. Now scuse me while i go cry in a corner and mourn the death of my Interceptor.
*plays violin*
yes I'm sincere the RGI is the coolest looking ship imo just wish it weren't so bugged(my opinion)
Ducimus wrote:
When it comes to the A wing, and the "I fly a pre ROTW fighter" chestbeating, im going to have to point something out. (not targeting you leaph, just in general)
Your LUCKY to have a ship that has the attributes to remain compedative in the post ROTW game.
1.) The A wing is STILL small and hard to hit. Scroll up, and youll find that it is the only ship comparitive in size to the JSF, albiet the JSF is *slightly* smaller.
2.) 65K (66K) mass is just enough to fit in a QID and not give up much.
3.) decent guns spread
Point one is like having a piece of cake, point two is the frosting, point three is having sprinkles on your cake, the whole thing is still very tasty. Now scuse me while i go cry in a corner and mourn the death of my Interceptor.
Rapax. I understand and you lead me onto this point. I love squints...but yeh they're out of the picture as far as the standard variant goes. However...
I wish they'd fix the RG TIE hitbox. We all know this.
Here is why though. The hitbox is screwed up, no doubt about it even if it was by design. Now a lot of pilots I know won't touch the thing because they either feel dishonourable using it or they know that they won't be as respected as much if they did yada yada yada. Otherwise, the vast majority of people I see in those things can't fly for peanuts and just require ten minutes of pounding the chassis until a hit lands.
Ok, ok...so now take this. They fix the hitbox. Out of their shells, pilots like Rapax and Harotak and probably Tomo..and hell every other Imperial pilot out there thinks "hang about mates...this thing now has a valid hitbox" followed by much maniacal laughing on their part. Now these people will -slaughter- the majority of people and with that weapons spread vs. my A-wing probably myelf too which would be fine. I'd love nothing more to see the ship being implemented properly but at least having a decent hitbox.
The point of the matter is this though. As soon as that hitbox is fixed and the above happens...I bet you -anything- that more people than ever start crying nerf simply because rather than them not being able to beat the ship very quickly/if at all because of their shots not hitting the hitbox....this time round, they've got these pilots who currently don't fly the ship but probably would otherwise handing their arses to them very fairly on a plate.
As for me, if they did fix the hitbox and more Imperial pilots who know what the're doing started flying the ship...I'd be happy at least because it's less flippin' JSF clone ugly ships visually polluting space and also...it'd offer a somewhat better challenge.
Does that make any sense?
Message Edited by LeaphChausew on 09-01-2005 02:32 PM
Still though, its a ROTW ship, and for that reason alone, it will never be fully respected and subject to chastisement. While the Awing driver can still beat their chest in pilot social circles.
Can i have a 65K mass Tie Interceptor? Please? Purty please?
Ducimus wrote:
If they fixed the RGI (and im not holding my breath), id think id name it "hell unleashed". Im slowly but surely REing parts for one btw in anticpation of a day that will probably never happen
Still though, its a ROTW ship, and for that reason alone, it will never be fully respected and subject to chastisement. While the Awing driver can still beat their chest in pilot social circles.
Can i have a 65K mass Tie Interceptor? Please? Purty please?
/beats chest.
/coughs
Think I just ruptured my spleen...
I'll respect a fixed RG TIE. Hell, I respect plenty of Actis pilots, I just don't like the ship. Its uuugggllly. Uggllyy!!! I say.
A 65k mass Standard Interceptor would be awesome. Now that vs. an A-wing would be scarier than a TIE Advanced vs. an A-wing with some people.
LeaphChausew wrote:
A 65k mass Standard Interceptor would be awesome. Now that vs. an A-wing would be scarier than a TIE Advanced vs. an A-wing with some people.
different weapon placement (can hit easier with interceptor from wder spread), and different "slide" if I remember correctly int has almost none and adv has high end of normal for light fighters, and int's hit box is mor on par with A wing than adv making them a near even match if it was 65k just edge to int for firing spread
Obed wrote:
LeaphChausew wrote:
A 65k mass Standard Interceptor would be awesome. Now that vs. an A-wing would be scarier than a TIE Advanced vs. an A-wing with some people.
I've read the FAQ over and over again, and I thought that stats-wise an Advanced was just a standard squint with more mass and an extra gun. Am I missing something?