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Thread: Notice how imp pilots get jipped on almost everything?

FriedSquid
Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:29 pm
#40

I'll respond to that in the future in a much longer post if you like, but here's the essence of my argument:


Essentially, cash is slightlyeasier to come across, the pets are better, the ships are that ever-so-small bit more effective, (And I'll argue that for quite a while - the second blaster on an Adv. is a killer part of my argument) there are more missions available, the content is easier to access, and the overall rewards are just that little tinge better. Where's the reb equivalent of an AT-ST? The imp prison equivalent? The reb ending to the Avatar Station quest?






It's all gone. And so am I.


JediNg
Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:31 pm
#41

relax, everyone



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FriedSquid
Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:31 pm
#42

How many times have you flown in a multiperson Y-wing?


How many times have you flown in a POB ship, after the first hour of 'oooh, coool?' or on the way to Avatar?









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FriedSquid
Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:34 pm
#43

Agreed. Someone asked me to discuss something completely off-topic, so I did so. I would move them to another thread in another forum, but this is where the question was asked. I'm done with this argument; it's dumb in the first place. Balance doesn't exist in this game, it's apparently not supposed to and even when the designers try it's a bit.... Yeah. Maybe there's balance in here somewhere I just don't understand. Completely possible. But I'm more interested in just playing and doing well for how I chose to play.






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Treena_Daal
Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:47 pm
#44



FriedSquid wrote:
How many times have you flown in a multiperson Y-wing?



I couldn't actually count. Are we counting times where I have been the one piloting, or just gunning? I do feel that it is fair to say that I have had sufficient experience with handling both a multi-person Y-wing and a TIE Bomber to make comparisons between the two.



FriedSquid wrote:
How many times have you flown in a POB ship, after the first hour of 'oooh, coool?' or on the way to Avatar?



I saw my first Vette in the gun turret of a YT-1300. I was part of not less that 10 Vette runs in that YT before I ever hit Tier 3 of my first pilot squadron. I am still an active part of the crew of that YT. For quite a while (before the flying bug really bit me and I started taking my own ships to these things) I was on that ship almost every time it was launched. If it weren't for the admin list bug, I'd still be one of only a few who could freely change around the interior of that ship. At one point, I even dropped Tier 3 as an Imperial pilot just to take up Neutral and co-pilot. I am quite certain that I've had enough experience with POB ships and their capabilities.
SharkBoy007
Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:48 pm
#45

I didn't ask anything off topic, I was referring to piloting issues.


But over all, let's see:


- Imp ships have lower mass than the equivalent rebel ones.(Rebels win)


- According to the devs own weapon hardpoint rules, the interceptor should have two projectile weapon slots (yet have only one), while the X-Wing should also have two (yet has 3). (Rebels win)


- Rebels get a 2 person ship earlier in tiers, where Imps won't see one until Tier 4 (Rebels win)


- From what I've seen, the handling on both faction ships are about the same, with the Y-wing (a bomber), having better handling than the TIE bomber (also a, well, bomber) (Rebels win)


- No factional tier 4 duty missions for Imps, yet rebels get them. (Rebels win)


- The rebels have no AT-ST equivalent, yet AT-STs are nothing more than faction point sinks (Rebels win)


- Imperial prison vs, no Rebel prison - this skews the game in favor of the Imps how? (Imps win, I guess)


- First loot revamp, all but two items dropped off Imperial NPCs, yet said loot was clearly aimed at Imps. The only way to get them was to: a) have a Rebel alt, b) know cool rebels willing to help Imps out, c) pay millions of credits. Second loot revamp (the devs told IMPS to be patient, it was only the first pass) never came to pass. (Rebels win, they get both content AND millions of credits)


- Cries of Alderaan story arc, the Imps were ahead, yet the devs not only gave out a call to Rebels saying so, they extended the deadline for the story arc so that rebels could bust rear. When the rebels pulled ahead, no such thing was given to the Imps. (Rebels win, granted, on some servers, Imps actually won the story arc).


I'm sorry, but to say this game is skewed towards Imps is at best, an mistaken understanding, at worst, a case for Idiot poster child.





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Croll
Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:59 pm
#46






SharkBoy007 wrote:


- No factional tier 4 duty missions for Imps, yet rebels get them. (Rebels win)







Correct me if I am wrong, but the Dathomir stations are Tier 4 rebel duty missions. Or do you mean only missions given by trainers?




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Grunzer
Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:00 pm
#47

I remember a developer saying once to the rebels who continually moaned about the AT-ST pets.... "JTL is coming. The X-wing is a superior fighter in almost every way compared to anything the Empire has."



What's a shame though is that most of the privateer ships look like crap. Hell, a couple of the designs remind me of the old Wing Commander Rapier ships. heh, not very original if you ask me.





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Grunzer
Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:05 pm
#48






-JungleKing- wrote:
Rebel Fleet destroyed 2 Deaht Stars, Empire Fleet destroyed... hum..... er oh yeah, a couple of rebel ships.

Now seriously, I fly an X Wing (no the crapy desing Advanced) and i think they must remove the mid wings weapon slot. But please give us some level 8 engines with the movie style art..





Hmm, oh yeah, a planet. actually, several planets, in the EU. hehe.





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JediNg
Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:08 pm
#49

We want an XJ X-wing.....



Ritha Egasiso - 12 experiment point Master Weaponsmith.
To BB, Jo-Jo, Reilly, Beano, Dipper, Flat Top, Chuckles, Jolly, Crashdown, Sheppard, Dash, Flyboy, Stepchild, Puppet, Fireball...
You said that humanity never asked itself why it deserved to survive. Maybe you don't?
Stand by, FTL.
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SharkBoy007
Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:11 pm
#50






Croll wrote:






SharkBoy007 wrote:


- No factional tier 4 duty missions for Imps, yet rebels get them. (Rebels win)







Correct me if I am wrong, but the Dathomir stations are Tier 4 rebel duty missions. Or do you mean only missions given by trainers?






By trainers, sorry, should have been more specific.



Mox Shehalis
Former Unit Commander, Phoenix Rising (RIP 15 Nov 2005)
I AM A MORE THAN A DOLLAR SIGN, I AM A HUMAN BEING WHO DECIDED TO SPEND HIS SPARE CASH AND TIME IN A WONDERFUL GALAXY FAR AWAY.
Ducimus
Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:14 pm
#51

I remember doing the 100% repair quest for dath station, but i dont recall teir 4 rebel ships. I remember teir 3's but not teir 4's. I could be mistaken. I will GLADLY be mistaken if dath does infact spawn teir 4 destroy missions for imp pilots that spawn rebel ships. However, i dont think they do. Anyone confirm?



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Raptor2k1
Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:14 pm
#52

I'm personally jealous of the Imperial uniform... they get their film one right off the bat, wheras rebels can't even get the classic Rebel pilot helmet (just the one with the mask at master - which annoys me because it completely takes away the face of the person wearing it, which is what made the rebel helmets in the films cool; more personality).


Didn't they say they were going to add that at some point during the loot revamp?





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