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Admiraljz

Nope never accidentally flagged myself overt at a station. The forced overtness I refer to is when you go to kessel to kill the corvette to get master pilot.


My complaint about mass isn't the ships. Its the items themselves. A level 6 and level 2 engine/reactor/capacitor/booster/armour can have identical stats except for mass. It really doesn't make any sense. The other complaint is it isn't really mass they're talking about. A tie bomber (190k max mass) has exactly the same speed whether you put a reactor and engine in, or fully load it up to 190k. The inherent lack of physics in the game isn't a problem if anything its better they use an atmospheric model, but the nomenclature is misleading.

I'm not sure what you're on about with krayts and mind fire. I don't have any mind fire weapons and only one krayt pearl that I bought. I refuse to solo them, and no one in my guild will hunt them as a guild because of both play times and no equitable way to distribute loot because we'd have time to kill like one dragon before someone has to log.

Maybe you didn't notice that items decay when you die (or moreover when you repair). So I'll make sure you're brought up to speed. They decay when you repair them. Besides I don't want to kill players. Esspecially in space where it can easily largely degrade to griefing. The difference between a master pilot and a 4/4/4/4 is significant as is the difference between a 4/4/4/4 and a 3/3/3/3, such that its not sporting. That's probably as it should be, but allowing master level people to pick on 4/4/4/4 people trying to get master isn't really fair.

You may not hear people complain about JTL in game because we get sick of it and come here. At least here there is a means for open discussion. Complaining to my guild isn't going to solve any issues with JTL. Complaining here may not either, but at least the possiblity exists.

And yes, I'm well aware of the combat upgrade potentially requireing grouping. The only reason I actually play SWG anymore is two RL friends play and we group all the time (or at least did till one got jedi and due to visibilty won't group with anyone but that's another tirade). The basic playerbase of SWG now is here because there isn't forced grouping, if you hadn't noticed the other posts on this issue. I have always said I'm happy with grouping being the preferred (ie easiest) option, but not required. Online RPG mate, that means we should each be able to experience the world in our own way.

If you think the games wonderful thats great. I'm not suggesting making it worse for you, I'm saying the game can be great for everyone, by taking away the scripted forced story/grouping path on people, and opening it up to making your own story. SWG and more to the point JTL needs to be about options, and its not. If I wanted a single player game I have about 1000 on my shelf (no I'm not kidding, I've been playing games for like 20 years and have them all still because I'm a pack rat, thats about a game a week for 20 years).

actually another thought on the long term health of the game here.


One of the core problems with the quest system is how grouping with affect it (same with the xp system). In space if you do 5% of the damage to something (1/20th) you get full xp. So two weeks from now someone in my guild who just gets the game for whatever reason, can just have a master or 4/4/4/4 pilot baby him around after the first batch of missions. Get him all his training and do quite literally 95% of the work xping, and voila, you have a 4/4/4/4 pilot in a day or two (whereas now it takes about a week it seems). That isn't good for the long term health of the game.

The long term impact of the current state of JTL needs to be addressed. The same sort of thing as buffs that are for 2700 points. One set of them isn't a big deal (hey I remember original beta and doing specials with CDEFs to safe ham costs then switching guns for normal shots and the like), but thousands of them has really trivialized a lot of content. Both the buffs and armour issues are things that needed to be addressed right around when they came out, or it seeps into the cutlture of the game. Now that they are there (and have been this way for what, 7, 8 months, a year?) they aren't easy to change, because the people who were sick of that left already, and won't come back and the people here now are both used to it and expect it to be this way, as well as new content being somewhat balanced around it (2700 point buffs and 66% base composite and you still can get butchered in the DWB and corvette is a good indication the new stuff is balanced around it). There are some fundamental problems with JTL, as you can see in other threads people are quitting because of JTL (they don't want an action game they want an RPG, they don't want to be forced to group etc... etc... etc...), and those issues need to be addressed quickly before we have a crop of 'uber' ultra low mass items floating around, more people quitting because they are fed up with mission difficulty etc... Much as it would nice to be elite and say we're better off without them, the more people that play SWG, the more money they have, the more money they have the more level designers they can hire, the more devs, the more content we all have to enjoy.

Early on when people were using basically an exploit to get huge amounts of faction quickly (for 3 at-st's and full ST armour in like... a day) they took swift action. This isn't quite as severe but I'd put it on par with the armour/buff issues and defense stackers. They should have dealt with defense stacking problems, and armour/buff issues before the game went live, failing that as soon as they saw a defense stacker solo a krayt dragon. But they didn't, so now we've had this permeate into the game and cause all sorts of problems for the culture and loot.

Some of the stuff the initial poster talks about are things that require new art assets, scripting time, backend database management etc... Now obviously they have various priorities here. Privateers need a master level ship other than the firespray. The whole inventory on a ship is another problem entirely since there are some fundamental inventory problems in game. That vendors are largely being used as item dumps seems to demonstrate the problem, the items will find some way to exist or crafters will get very unhappy. So they need to address those issues.

The idea of being able to walk around in a starbase (and have them like a city) while interesting is a lot of dev/art time and I'm not sure its something we'll see soon. I'm guessing (I'm not certain but I'm guessing) that to make starbases do that is the same as adding a new planet back end which is would be a lot of work, for not much gain over stuff you can do on planet. Storage on ships, certainly true the way it works now doesn't make a lot of sense, but it took them till like a month ago to figure out how to make trunks etc.. into containers so I suspect there is something more complicated back end about making this hold items (same as bandoliers).

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admiraljz wrote:

Let me guess... you were fiddling with the Imperial Space Station and thought "yes I want to be overt" meant "no, I don't want anyone to attack me," and a Rebel in an A-Wing blew up your starter Tie Fighter, causing you 100 wounds and costing you 200 credits.

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Or, perhaps, the person was talking about the existing, actually REAL, forced pvp that's required for the master box.
I predict you'll see early masters (when there's no one else in a good position to harass them), then a huge number of vocal people blocked because when they zone into Kessel to work their master quest, not only will they be facing a hard AI script, they'll have PvP loving 'masters' who are just haunting the script waypoints to kill them so they won't have to face another master down the road.

The *blocking will be amazing and immense. You thought /citywarn was abused? Wait and see what becomes of a master quest in a pvp freeforall zone with the playerbase we have.

You point out everything which is flawed in JTL, some of which I pointed out in the Beta.
I can't see how you could disagree with any of the yellow points... except Hyperspace to a WP.

All that would make JTL a better and more entertaining experience.. period!

After Beta I cancelled my account, but I gave in and got the game yesterday. Big Mistake. So far none of my major problems with it were addressed. So now I am recancelling, and due to my dissapointment in the dev team, will not be back this time.

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RADAR. The RADAR is something that many people complained about in Beta as well. Going back to my other favorite game, Elite, which had a much better RADAR where you could get a visual representation of whether the targets where above/behind, in front of/in back of you. Elite was written in the early 80's by two college students in England. The computer they had at the time had like 4 bits of memory. Come on devs. Let's work a bit on the RADAR huh?

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