Pilot Archive

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alyris wrote:

The RGI is as close to an "I win" button as there is in space. Maybe cheater ship was not the correct term for it, but thats certainly what it feels like when you are flying it, HA, I'M IN GOD MODE, no one can touch me, not even tier 5 gun boats. You question my ablities, I'm not sure why? This is NOT about my flying skill, its about a ship that cannot be hit.

Kirsha - Kettemoor

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Along with e-pulse 3

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LeaphChausew wrote:

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alyris wrote:

The RGI is as close to an "I win" button as there is in space. Maybe cheater ship was not the correct term for it, but thats certainly what it feels like when you are flying it, HA, I'M IN GOD MODE, no one can touch me, not even tier 5 gun boats. You question my ablities, I'm not sure why? This is NOT about my flying skill, its about a ship that cannot be hit.

Kirsha - Kettemoor

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Along with e-pulse 3

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Along with an oppressor. it feels cheap, i hate using it. Is that all the "I win " buttons? or did we miss any?

Message Edited by Ducimus on 07-18-2005 08:52 AM

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JediNg wrote:

Haha, lets hope it's a bug

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Given sony's idiocy, it would not suprise me if its not a bug at all. more likely then not, they did it intentionally but didnt quite think the whole thing out. Much like the rest of the ROTW space additions.

I'm 99% sure it's bugged. Compare hitting a TIE interceptor standard to a RGI and you'll see what I mean. Using top of the line equipment it took me 5 minutes or so to kill a Tier 3 one in Kashyyyk. Any other NPC TIE/Int in the rest of the game would have been space dust after the first pass.

It seemed to show a lot of the symptoms of that one bug in beta where you'd hit the target, but it would take no damage (except from direct hits to the front and back).

You know, if sony changes the RGT before other longstanding exploits in the game.. .i am sooo gonna blow the whistle, in detail, on every public mediem i can think of. Won't be on the offical forums, but everywhere else. Sony will only act on "visible" issues im wagering.

yeah im very disgruntled. From ROTW BS like the JSF and RGT, to exploits they refuse to fix.. im really ticked off.

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KinjiruSpleen wrote:
OK Thradd, you made me not feel guilty about flying mine...

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Glad I could help

Keep in mind: We are Imperial. We should never feel guilty for our greatness.

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Thradd wrote:

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alyris wrote:
Its a cheater ship! I justtook out a Tier 5 gun boat in Dath space and did not even have to use cap to shield shunt once. It just could not hit me, and there were a couple of times that my screen flashed red (like I had been hit), and took no damage on my shields. And people talk about the JSF being to strong, LOL. Having only 1 gun isn't a problem if nothing in the game can hit you!

Kirsha - Kettemoor

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It doesn't take a hotshot pilot to bring down a Tier5 gunboat and not get hit. Hell, you could probably do it in a starter TIE as long as you pay attention to what you're doing. Just because something can't hit you does't mean the ship is bugged. I can rip up the RSS in deep space in a standard Interceptor and not take a hit. And I know several A-wing and JSF pilots who take down the ISD daily and never get a scratch.

The rumor is thatthe RGI's hit box is "bugged". I'm nto so sure that's true. I've taken hits in both PVE and PVP and have needed to CtSS more than once to save my hide. If the RGI is harder to hit than other ships then I say good. it is supposed to be "stronger and more manuverable" as per the SWG write up on it. You didn't expect the Emperor's private escort fighters to be as easy to pop as the regular TIE scrap did you?

I don't think it's a cheater ship at all. It's like people calling you a cheater when you use missiles to take them down in PVP. Pfft. Don't stay in my window long enough for me to get a lock and you won't get dusted.

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in my experience its not bugged for size but for placement

sheild hit animation occurs correctly(clientside) but the explosion animations are ahead of fighter most of time leading me to believe it's not lining up properly (a lil ahead of sheild effect from lag btwn client and server responce) but is actually substantially ahead of it.

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IL-Vec wrote:
in my experience its not bugged for size but for placement

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Well according to quadperson in the pilot issues thread, the RGI 's hitbox is almost exactly the same size of a JSF. In addition its well established that only a hit in the upper hemisphere of the ball will regester a hit.

This would collaborate your theory with placment.

that's just a graphic effect. if you take the time to duel a friend of yours with an IGI and level one guns it becomes apparent that the hitbox covers the scalp of the ball, no more, no less. a direct shot there causes a hit, a direct shot anywhere else near or on the IGI gets a shield deflection or you just hit air.

i don't know why explosion graphics show off the model graphic but to score a hit with lasers you absolutely need to hit the scalp of the "ball".

and again, fly a JSF in between the wings of a stationary IGI and park, you'll notice the hitbox scalp of the IGI's ball is not much smaller than the hitbox of the JSF. the entire JSF fits with room in between the IGI's wings, to call it a cheater ship also denotes the rest of the small hitbox ROTW ships as cheater ships as well, only this cheater ship has 10k less mass than other cheater ships, and 1 gun.

is the hitbox a bug? maybe. it also might be intentional. WO3 is a bug too, i'm willing to bet 99.9% of people crying "cheat" exploit that defect gladly.

Today quadpers0n , you are my personal hero. If what you say is true (and ive no reason not to beleive you), it paints a pretty ugly picture that leans toward the side of "intentional" or.. perhaps even "not as bugged as people beleive it is"

Love the way you point out the hipocracy in the subject as well. Good stuff.