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Thread: a-wing timeline problem

Imaridril
Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:34 am
#27






DarkScout wrote:

This is from Star Wars: Starships of the Galaxy...


"Following the Battle of Yavin, the Rebel Alliance designed a number of new starships. The A-Wing was a strike fighter, supposedly the fastest ship ever built, sacrificing firepower, shielding and staying power for pure speed. Limited funds required the A-Wing to be built from existing parts, but its brilliant design still managed to squeeze superb performance from components built for other purposes."


Take it as you will...to me it shows that yes this ship should not be around at this point. Not to say there aren't other timeline errors!







Um, the quote you posted says the A-wing was built following the Battle of Yavin, which is where we are in the timeline right now, so if anything, Star Wars: Starships of the Galaxy supports the A-wing being available in the game right now.




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CuchulainnDarklight
Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:04 am
#28






Imaridril wrote:





DarkScout wrote:

This is from Star Wars: Starships of the Galaxy...


"Following the Battle of Yavin, the Rebel Alliance designed a number of new starships. The A-Wing was a strike fighter, supposedly the fastest ship ever built, sacrificing firepower, shielding and staying power for pure speed. Limited funds required the A-Wing to be built from existing parts, but its brilliant design still managed to squeeze superb performance from components built for other purposes."


Take it as you will...to me it shows that yes this ship should not be around at this point. Not to say there aren't other timeline errors!







Um, the quote you posted says the A-wing was built following the Battle of Yavin, which is where we are in the timeline right now, so if anything, Star Wars: Starships of the Galaxy supports the A-wing being available in the game right now.





Think of it like this, the JTL (forget the nubships) ships are items that have progressed timewise, while the ground game is still stuck in groundhog day.




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Ypogi
Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:04 pm
#29






Halyn wrote:







danno13 wrote:
Additionally, to further split hairs, are TIE Interceptors pre-Hoth ships as well?






I would tenatively say "yes." The TIE Interceptors were designed as the Imperial response to the X-wing, and were largely very well-matched against X-wings. If they were post-Hoth ships, they'd probably have been designed differently tobetter compete with the A-wing.However, if they are pre-Hoth, it begs the question: why weren't they available during the Hoth blockade? The Millennium Falcon is pursued by TIE line fighters and TIE bombers, but there's no appearance of the TIE Interceptor until the Endor battle.





Perhaps it is because the Squadron used in the battle of Hoth, the Imperial Death Squadron, was not yet supplied with the Tie Interceptors and or pilots qualified to fly them. The IDS had to make great haste to the Hoth system in order to catch the Rebels during their escape. Assuming the following firefight with the Falcon in the asteroid field was with tie squadrons of the IDS then this would present itsself as the reason why. Why do I assume this is the same squadron, because it would be rather time consuming to pull a different squadron of ISD's with a SSD command ship just for 1 ship. Therefore I believe Lord Vader ordered the 3 ISD's seen in the movie to break off from the main group and capture the Falcon.



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Halyn
Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:15 pm
#30






Ypogi wrote:






Halyn wrote:







danno13 wrote:
Additionally, to further split hairs, are TIE Interceptors pre-Hoth ships as well?






I would tenatively say "yes." The TIE Interceptors were designed as the Imperial response to the X-wing, and were largely very well-matched against X-wings. If they were post-Hoth ships, they'd probably have been designed differently tobetter compete with the A-wing.However, if they are pre-Hoth, it begs the question: why weren't they available during the Hoth blockade? The Millennium Falcon is pursued by TIE line fighters and TIE bombers, but there's no appearance of the TIE Interceptor until the Endor battle.





Perhaps it is because the Squadron used in the battle of Hoth, the Imperial Death Squadron, was not yet supplied with the Tie Interceptors and or pilots qualified to fly them. The IDS had to make great haste to the Hoth system in order to catch the Rebels during their escape. Assuming the following firefight with the Falcon in the asteroid field was with tie squadrons of the IDS then this would present itsself as the reason why. Why do I assume this is the same squadron, because it would be rather time consuming to pull a different squadron of ISD's with a SSD command ship just for 1 ship. Therefore I believe Lord Vader ordered the 3 ISD's seen in the movie to break off from the main group and capture the Falcon.





That's quite possible. To be honest, I'm not sure how high up the food chain some of the ISDs in the area were in terms of prestige--after all, at least the Executor would've been equipped with TIE Interceptors, since I doubt Vader would have anything but the best/deadliest on his personal command ship.


The SW.com database only has a couple things of anything important to note about the TIE Interceptor: that the TIE Interceptor figured prominently at Endor, and that most Star Destroyers had a squadron of twelve TIE Interceptors aboard.


/shrug


Not going to pretend I can peg the TIE Interceptor's development/production dates down.






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Imaridril
Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:46 pm
#31






Halyn wrote:





Ypogi wrote:






Halyn wrote:







danno13 wrote:
Additionally, to further split hairs, are TIE Interceptors pre-Hoth ships as well?






I would tenatively say "yes." The TIE Interceptors were designed as the Imperial response to the X-wing, and were largely very well-matched against X-wings. If they were post-Hoth ships, they'd probably have been designed differently tobetter compete with the A-wing.However, if they are pre-Hoth, it begs the question: why weren't they available during the Hoth blockade? The Millennium Falcon is pursued by TIE line fighters and TIE bombers, but there's no appearance of the TIE Interceptor until the Endor battle.





Perhaps it is because the Squadron used in the battle of Hoth, the Imperial Death Squadron, was not yet supplied with the Tie Interceptors and or pilots qualified to fly them. The IDS had to make great haste to the Hoth system in order to catch the Rebels during their escape. Assuming the following firefight with the Falcon in the asteroid field was with tie squadrons of the IDS then this would present itsself as the reason why. Why do I assume this is the same squadron, because it would be rather time consuming to pull a different squadron of ISD's with a SSD command ship just for 1 ship. Therefore I believe Lord Vader ordered the 3 ISD's seen in the movie to break off from the main group and capture the Falcon.





That's quite possible. To be honest, I'm not sure how high up the food chain some of the ISDs in the area were in terms of prestige--after all, at least the Executor would've been equipped with TIE Interceptors, since I doubt Vader would have anything but the best/deadliest on his personal command ship.


The SW.com database only has a couple things of anything important to note about the TIE Interceptor: that the TIE Interceptor figured prominently at Endor, and that most Star Destroyers had a squadron of twelve TIE Interceptors aboard.


/shrug


Not going to pretend I can peg the TIE Interceptor's development/production dates down.








Well, keep in mind, when the Executor was constructed, it was probably outfitted with the equipment necessary to support regular TIEs, and not Interceptors. Upgrading it to Interceptors wouldn't be as easy as just flying a squadron out to it. You'd need pilots trianed to fly them, landing systems designed to accomodate them, a crew trained in maintaining them, officers skilled in what they are capable of in battle, machine shops and supplies designed for servicing Interceptors, and all the proper channels to make sure that those things are in constant and ready supply to the ship. Upgrading the Executor to Interceptors would have probably involvedflying across the galaxy to the Kuat shipyards for an extensive refit, not to mention that dedicating part of the shipyards to an Executor refit would have probably delayed the construction of other Super Star Destroyers, since I'm guess there's only a limited number of docks in Imperial space capable of refitting a ship the size of the Executor.


At the time of its design, the Executor probably was put together with the best weapons, fighters, and defense systems possible, however it wouldn't be feasible for Vader to run the ship back to the shipyards for a refit everytime a new bit of Imperial technology was developped, especially if he was busy trying to use the Executor to track down the rebels.






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