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Thread: Petition: Ship Repair Kits

IL-Vec
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:39 pm
#27






Nearro wrote:





Cookie-Eater wrote:







Attacca wrote:

If you have one of the few expensive and hard to replace ships (which would be what, Actis, RGI, Vaksai, maybe heavy X?) try flying something else until you get a little better or reach Ace and can repair in DS.


I dont wanna "try" flying something else because there Ins't another 3 gun 180k mass ship.










Message Edited by Cookie-Eater on 09-25-2005 07:13 AM





What Nesa is saying about flying a different ship is so true. You're saying you don't want to try flying something different cause there's no other 180k mass 3 gun ship. That right there says you are flying a Rihx, which is a very cheap ship to replace.




3 guns 180k is an Advanced X wing


Rihk with what I consider decent is 190k 3 gun but huge profile and less PYR accel



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Attacca
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:42 pm
#28

Careful with the quoting. That bit in bold in the post above is NOT my words.





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Cookie-Eater
Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:36 pm
#29






Attacca wrote:








Cookie-Eater wrote:



You can reach lvl 80 easily, You cant reach Ace as easily.







Your point being? Or are you secretly agreeing with me now?






How am I agreeing? are you Impicating that getting Ace is easy?



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Attacca
Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:53 pm
#30


Noo, but since the basis of my argument was that all you need to do is find someone cross server or who doesn't fly to do the quest with you, something like the Arc/etc. is very easy to replace - not hard to get a toon to combat level. If you're much of a pilot it's very easy to have someone sit in space while you run the kash missions to get a replacement ship. Hardly a difficult work around.


And frankly, I think Ace is much easier than reaching CL80. Certainly faster for me, even with a fresh character. The Ace title means very little, when you really get down to it.







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Cookie-Eater
Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:57 pm
#31






Attacca wrote:


Noo, but since the basis of my argument was that all you need to do is find someone cross server or who doesn't fly to do the quest with you, something like the Arc/etc. is very easy to replace - not hard to get a toon to combat level. If you're much of a pilot it's very easy to have someone sit in space while you run the kash missions to get a replacement ship. Hardly a difficult work around.


And frankly, I think Ace is much easier than reaching CL80. Certainly faster for me, even with a fresh character. The Ace title means very little, when you really get down to it.







You arent thinking in general, You're thinking of certain people, I cant "get down with it" because I only get around 3 hours to play, 5 at most, and sometimes I dont play.



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Attacca
Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:06 pm
#32


Arguing with you is a lot like talking to my dog, ya know? I think she hears me, but sure doesn't listen, and her responses don't seem to move the discussion at all. You realize you just said the same thing I did, only from your perspective? YOU aren't thinking in general either, you're thinkingof certain people likeyourself. 3-5 hours tops is my best for a day, usually less. I could still Ace a squadron in a week. I'm not even sure why that's relevant, other than you broughtit up a page back.Anyhow, this is degenerating into a senseless urinating contest (you brought up pee first!) and frankly, serves no purpose.


I stand by my original statement: Repair kits are unnecessary and cheapen an already watered down game. Learn to fly or find a workaround, plenty provided, without crying to the devs with a petition.

Message Edited by Attacca on 09-27-2005 10:07 PM





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thegame350
Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:17 am
#33

Are you all scatter brained? Do you not pay attention in game? There are repair kits for specific components, all components, and chassis repair kits.


You don't have to repair at the repair station, you can land and repair your components manually. Repair kits are not that expensive and another thing...


I do not want to have to pay 250k everytimemy shipblows up like i do my BARC. Ships are expensive enough themselves to maintain and buy parts for once the old ones degrade enough.


Stop trying to give the Artisians all the power in the game. Give them enough power and the ones who are ass***** will price gouge the hell out of us.


Whats that you say " I am not an ass artisian who will price gouge my customers!!!" I believe you trust me I do. Simple economics WILL catch up to you though and you'll be forced to be an ass. Example...


Your a single account Artisian bumbling along one day then BOOM the next patch goes live and Artisians pretty much rule the day when it comes to people needing things. You stay at your current prices while everyone jacks up thiers cause they know everyone has no choice but to buy products to keep going in the game.


So they buy you out quick of all your craftables cause they are cheaper. Great you got a lot of money now but you need more resources to craft more stuff. But wait... you can't afford to buy the resources now cause those who offer them have jacked up thier prices as well. Now you have to rely on harvesting which will take an increasingly longer amount of time however customer demand is not going down so those loyal customers that you have wave bye bye to you cause you just aren't able to produce items fast enough. So you now are forced into jacking your prices up because you have to catch up with the supply and demand requirements.


All because they wanted to make it so players HAVE to seek out artisians for important things like ship repair kits, vehicle repair kits etc etc etc. If I have no ship then I can't loot components, if I have no components I can't sell them back to the chassis dealer, if I can't sell them that means I have no money. No money for me = no money for you.


You all really aren't going to be happy until the economy in SWG is just like the economy in the states... only rich people get to afford necessary things.



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Spir4
Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:34 am
#34






thegame350 wrote:

Are you all scatter brained? Do you not pay attention in game? There are repair kits for specific components, all components, and chassis repair kits.


You don't have to repair at the repair station, you can land and repair your components manually. Repair kits are not that expensive and another thing...




If you would have read this thread with a little more attention, you would have known that they are talking about repair kits that bring the chassis back to its original, full hp. The current repair kits that are in the game cause decay to the component/chassis if you use them to repair (exact the same like if you'd repair at a space station).


I'm against bringing kits in the game that can bring the condition of your chassis back to its original value, because otherwise a lot of people would just fly in space like a chicken without a head. They wouldn't pay attention at all anymore, because who cares if their precious JSF gets blown to pieces and hits 10/10 condition, a repair kit will fix that.
The system like it is now, is a good sytem. Don't mess with it...
Besides, if you are careful in space, there isn't much chance that you get blown to pieces. If you do, there are always ways to get no decay, or at least a minimal decay.


To be honest, but that's a little off topic here, I don't like the repair kits of the vehicles neither. Just be careful if you drive, and if you know you're driving in a dangerous place, use an easy replaceable vehicle.


Malcolm_CaKre
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:20 am
#35

I'm not particularly happy about Deep Space as a free nodecay repair. That sucks money away from the shipwrights. It's also pretty hokey... It just doesn't make sense that I could fly out to the middle of nowhere with a better repair than what I could get at a fully stocked space station.


I would personally rather that all PvP damage was nodecay repair (analagous to what's on the ground in PvP deaths) in all sectors to encourage more action.


And I'd rather that components and chassis can be repaired without decay (or greatly reduced, similar to insured death or a constant point or whatever) by using a shipwright-crafted repair kit, to encourage money flow to them.


But that's just me.
Dragon942
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:29 am
#36

Nes is right. In all points.


Ace is easier than CL80, especially if you want a useful CL80 template.


Reward ships are rewards, you should take care of them. If you plan on dying and decaying a lot (remember, no decay in DS), learn to fly a replaceable ship during those times.


A vehicle repair kit costs much less than an AV-21, BARC, or Jet pack, so I don't know what you are talking about.


And the devs have stated in the past that they do not respond or read threads that say DEVS READ THIS!!1!!1 or Petition for XYZ or anything like that. If you are new maybe you didn't know that, but now you do





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JanuHull
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:44 am
#37






Cookie-Eater wrote:





Attacca wrote:





Cookie-Eater wrote:





Attacca wrote:

Your argument is more akin to repair kits for weapons or armor - some things are made to fade with time. If you're in a situation where your special quest ship can be blown up and suffer decay, either accept the risk or don't fly it.






Quest ships arent as easy to get as weapons from quests, In fact, you can use ADKs on weapons and not on ships so putting a Ship repair kit isnt so game breaking.






Nonsense, they're very easy to get, the space missions aren't exactly difficult. Especially something like the Actis, which doesn't even require a space battle.


As far as replacement, it's just as easy to work out a trade with someone for a quest ship as it is a quest weapon. As said above, it's just more cheapening of death in space. There should be some some penalty for death other than a free tow to station.


Besides, I'm not so sure ADKs were a good idea either.





You can reach lvl 80 easily, You cant reach Ace as easily.





You're not exactly helping your credibility with that statement.



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JanuHull
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:46 am
#38







Cookie-Eater wrote:





I dont wanna "try" flying something else because there Ins't another 3 gun 180k mass ship.







You, sir, are pathetic.



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Kehtal
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:55 am
#39










Cookie-Eater wrote:





I dont wanna "try" flying something else because there Ins't another 3 gun 180k mass ship.








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