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Thread: Space PVP!

Treena_Daal
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:41 pm
#27



TomoRainer wrote:
/boohiss

P.S. Space PVP is fun!


I suppose that my being happy to keep you on Bria is not going to make me many friends around here, huh?
Washell
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:41 pm
#28






Ducimus wrote:
I could probably be ok with a MKIV, but knowing some of the ppl on my server, i opted for the extra padding



All that popcorn and soda must be adding some padding too by now


quadpers0n
Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:38 pm
#29

you should at least work a toon on starsider to master and check out the pvp event. i'm going to try to make it on saturday this week.



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Lgatoman
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:05 pm
#30

Wow you guys jump on anyone with an opinion........so I might as well add more fuel to the flame. I never said i died alot and i never said i didn't PVP and that i wasn't good at it sweeties. I have no problem with PVP I just feel that it sucks compared to some of the other Xwing titles that have come out. In no way is the space system balanced or even fun to play. I have been an avid xwing fan since the title was release and have played all the different variations of said game. All i am saying is that the PVP in space needs to be a little more like PVE. Maybe you guys like killing people in four shots but personally i would like a little more of a challenge. This game right now is not based on piloting skill it is based on who see who first. I can't speak for the rest of you but i am undeafeated in PVP space battles when i see the enemy first. I mean seriously how do you miss when you only need four shots. All i am asking for is that the ships react more like the other games that came before it. I spent months pvping Xwing alliance and that game ROCKED for pvp. It was based on your skill and how you flew your ship along with knowing the weaknesses and strengths of your enemy. There is no need for that here. I don't care if it is a heavy fighter or a light fighter all attack methods are the same and to me this is boring and not fun. Just because i bash the PVP system does not mean i can't fly it just means i have played better and expect better. To all you who will bash this, and i know there are plenty of you out there, please come up with something better than /getpilotskills cause really that is getting old. Tell me that PVP is balanced when all you need to fly is either the Grevious or the JSF which can do as much damage as any other ship but can completely outfly anything else. I know i have a Grevious and that thing is SWEET but still there should be drawbacks to flying that ship. Each class of ship should have their strengths and weaknesses and in the PVE game these do but in the PVP side of things there is no ship class distinction. In my opinion i would at least like to see battles last a couple minutes vs seconds. Ok i am done, man i can 't wait for the replies this is going to be good


/popcorn


Ducimus
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:12 pm
#31

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Attacca
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:33 pm
#32






Ducimus wrote:
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Haha, awesome!





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S-1-l2-H-C
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:37 pm
#33







Ducimus wrote:
Your setup is what id use for PvE. I have a MKIV and L8 blaster in my bank, just for the quick change out.

Reason i went with an L8 shields is because if i didnt, id be missle bait in PvP. I could probably be ok with a MKIV, but knowing some of the ppl on my server, i opted for the extra padding





with no risk of getting hit by blasters, i would consider running adjust rear extreme, since missiles tend to come up the tailpipe. who knows, you might just get me.



also i think you dont want to switch anymore cause i told you how bad the starsider pilots would bend you over

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idolatry
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:40 pm
#34






Lgatoman wrote:

Wow you guys jump on anyone with an opinion........so I might as well add more fuel to the flame.


I never said i died alot and i never said i didn't PVP and that i wasn't good at it sweeties. I have no problem with PVP I just feel that it sucks compared to some of the other Xwing titles that have come out. In no way is the space system balanced or even fun to play.


I have been an avid xwing fan since the title was release and have played all the different variations of said game. All i am saying is that the PVP in space needs to be a little more like PVE.


Maybe you guys like killing people in four shots but personally i would like a little more of a challenge. This game right now is not based on piloting skill it is based on who see who first. I can't speak for the rest of you but i am undeafeated in PVP space battles when i see the enemy first. I mean seriously how do you miss when you only need four shots.


All i am asking for is that the ships react more like the other games that came before it. I spent months pvping Xwing alliance and that game ROCKED for pvp. It was based on your skill and how you flew your ship along with knowing the weaknesses and strengths of your enemy. There is no need for that here. I don't care if it is a heavy fighter or a light fighter all attack methods are the same and to me this is boring and not fun.


Just because i bash the PVP system does not mean i can't fly it just means i have played better and expect better. To all you who will bash this, and i know there are plenty of you out there, please come up with something better than /getpilotskills cause really that is getting old. Tell me that PVP is balanced when all you need to fly is either the Grevious or the JSF which can do as much damage as any other ship but can completely outfly anything else.


I know i have a Grevious and that thing is SWEET but still there should be drawbacks to flying that ship.


Each class of ship should have their strengths and weaknesses and in the PVE game these do but in the PVP side of things there is no ship class distinction. In my opinion i would at least like to see battles last a couple minutes vs seconds.


Ok i am done, man i can 't wait for the replies this is going to be good


/popcorn






/fixed, except for the punctuation and grammar. Because I couldn't be bothered.


1) This isn't XvT, this is JTL, and add-on for a MMORPG, whereyour load-out and equipmentis and should be extremely important. Most people who engage in PVP have very, very nice equipment. Everyone's equipment is going to be different. Very difficult to balance an equation where you can't predictthe sum of one side.


2) Most people who post on a thread like this will agree that the JSF/Bebullab-22 is unbalanced when you compare it with other ships. Doen't necessarily mean everything else needs to be changed. Maybe change those instead of the entire expansion.


3) Canon-wise, everyone dies in two or three hits at most.


4) With the current engines and shields we have available, fights against evenly matched (in skill) opponents will last pretty much indefinitely. We don't want slower fights, they already last a couple minutes unless you're caught off guard. If you'd caught off-guard it's your own fault for not keeping up your situational awareness.



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TomoRainer
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:44 pm
#35



S-1-l2-H-C wrote:


Ducimus wrote:
Your setup is what id use for PvE. I have a MKIV and L8 blaster in my bank, just for the quick change out.

Reason i went with an L8 shields is because if i didnt, id be missle bait in PvP. I could probably be ok with a MKIV, but knowing some of the ppl on my server, i opted for the extra padding


with no risk of getting hit by blasters, i would consider running adjust rear extreme, since missiles tend to come up the tailpipe. who knows, you might just get me.
also i think you dont want to switch anymore cause i told you how bad the starsider pilots would bend you over

Message Edited by S-1-l2-H-C on 07-14-2005 06:43 PM





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Ducimus
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:48 pm
#36


S-1-l2-H-C wrote:
with no risk of getting hit by blasters, i would consider running adjust rear extreme, since missiles tend to come up the tailpipe. who knows, you might just get me.
Also i think you dont want to switch anymore cause i told you how bad the starsider pilots would bend you ove




Ha! I coudlnt kill you even with 3 IR2's out of an oppressor unless i got really, Really, REALLY lucky.

Personnaly i think a RGT is quite killable, *IF* you can get inside his turn circle. Would have a straight shot at the top of the ball, and thats were it counts. Although i really doubt theres many who can get inside my turn circle. You probably can,, but id wager 90% of bria pilots can't.

EDIT.
Acutally good pilots on starsider has nothing to do with it. The truth is , IM BORED. The only reason i dont CANCEL altogether is i figure maybe joining a guild will help salvage some of the games fun for me. If it doesnt work out, im probably outta here.

Message Edited by Ducimus on 07-14-2005 06:50 PM

EDIT: acutally i forgot, i already DID cancel. Sub is up in 2 days. Gonna resub for 1 more month and see how it goes.

Message Edited by Ducimus on 07-14-2005 06:51 PM



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UPA_INTIMIDATOR
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:52 pm
#37






Dragon942 wrote:





Lgatoman wrote:
Space PVP is WEAK. There is no damage modifier so one shot from a player ship will reduce your shields to nothing and second shot will destory any armor you had and probaly blow you up. You can go to deep space to pvp or you can delcare at any reb/imp station in space, but it doesn't matter cause there is no one to fight cause there is nothing to do in space once you are a master pilot. Right now the PVP system is so jacked that me in my bell 22 can take out any multiplayer ship that is out there. It just depends on who sees the other person first. No skill, no parts and no programs will help you PVP in space





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LeaphChausew
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:26 pm
#38






Lgatoman wrote:
Space PVP is WEAK. There is no damage modifier so one shot from a player ship will reduce your shields to nothing and second shot will destory any armor you had and probaly blow you up. You can go to deep space to pvp or you can delcare at any reb/imp station in space, but it doesn't matter cause there is no one to fight cause there is nothing to do in space once you are a master pilot. Right now the PVP system is so jacked that me in my bell 22 can take out any multiplayer ship that is out there. It just depends on who sees the other person first. No skill, no parts and no programs will help you PVP in space





You can probably guess the responce to this I'd give if I gave one...

idolatry
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:29 pm
#39








LeaphChausew wrote:


You can probably guess the responce to this I'd give if I gave one...





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