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Thread: to all jsf pilots
xTekx wrote:
jadeew wrote:
JediNg wrote:
Your interpretation of my text message is has nothing to do with whether or not I really am or am not crying.
first, the ETA-2 does not even have a missle slot, keeping with at least some sw canon.
and two, if youre such a good pilot, why are you so intent on defending the JSF. If you are as good as you imply you are, then you'd be able to adapt to any sort of nerf.
That will be all.
Yep, definitely crying. I have been scouring threads today looking for any tips I can as a new pilot. You have been on several threads crying about this ship as well as being an a$$hat to anyone that a) disagrees with you or b) doesnt discuss exactly what you think the topic should be.Please move along as it seems that you only post criticism of the game and other people on the forums. You might try the galaxy forums. The seem to be chalked full of your kind lately.
Wait, you're saying that your whole argument against JediNg is that he is crying to much? And that you're whole defense for the JSF is people need to stop crying? I'm sorry, but sounds like you have no revelant argument to even bring to the discussion. If you're going to defend the JSF atleast do it with a post that is revelant to the discussion.I agree with JediNg that the missle slot needs to be removed. I also think that the mass needs to be dropped. If you want to counteract my arguement then by all means counter it. But do not say that people who want the game BALANCED back to what it was before the Rotw are crying. The game is not right and needs to be fixed. Ships need to be fixed. Not the original JTL ships, but the Rotw ships. And yes that means your precious JSF.
I have fought one. I have 1 kill and 1 death from one. And I consider myself a good pilot. This person I flew against wasn't all that skilled. If he was then he would have taken me out no problem in that first engagement. The JSF makes a bad pilot into a good pilot by the sheer speed of the turn. Doesn't sound balanced to me. But i'm sorry. You must be uber now in your new JSF and consider yourself good since you got the JSF right? Is that why you call us cryers?
Sorry, don't think I ever used the word "uber" in describing anything related to the JSF or piloting skills. Just tired of all these wonderful people coming here and whining about a reward ship that outstrips anything currently in the game. It's also interesting to note, that Imperials had the same qualms about the A-Wing, and we learned to adapt. Pretty sure they didn't nerf that ship, did they?
If you don't like it, don't fly it, or get yourself through Rebel Pilot, load up your A-Wing and go at it. Yes they are fast, and agile..they were meant to adapt to the skill of Jedi as the pilots, whom happen to have a certain affinity for heightened senses. If it bugs you so much in PvP, then don't PvP..nobody is holding a gun to your head; especially since you seem so all fired up about it.
I would much rather fly my Oppressor or Advanced when engaging another player, the JSF is a pure pleasure craft, and it's a pleasure I plan to enjoy to the fullest, even with the whiners crying in the background.
AelricMistrider wrote:
JediNg wrote:
I think the JSF needs to lose the ordnance slot.
Sounds like crying to me. How about we just drop all ordinace slots from every starfighter? Will that balance everything? No. It will just make them complain more. The issue for the JSF is the YPR ratio, not how many ordinance or weapon hardpoints it has. Or, if you don't like it, just do the work to get one, and you'll see that it's not the end-all/be-all ship. But now Imperials have a viable fighter to go toe-to-toe with an A-wing based on speed, size, YPR and loadout.
And thanks for resorting to calling me a 'short sighted buffoon'. That makes your argument sound that much more mature.
Maybe I should come back with something snappy too? Nah..not worth the effort.
I love people like this -
Example - "But now Imperials have a viable fighter to go toe-to-toe with an A-wing based on speed, size, YPR and loadout."
CuchulainnDarklight wrote:
AelricMistrider wrote:
JediNg wrote:
I think the JSF needs to lose the ordnance slot.
Sounds like crying to me. How about we just drop all ordinace slots from every starfighter? Will that balance everything? No. It will just make them complain more. The issue for the JSF is the YPR ratio, not how many ordinance or weapon hardpoints it has. Or, if you don't like it, just do the work to get one, and you'll see that it's not the end-all/be-all ship. But now Imperials have a viable fighter to go toe-to-toe with an A-wing based on speed, size, YPR and loadout.
And thanks for resorting to calling me a 'short sighted buffoon'. That makes your argument sound that much more mature.
Maybe I should come back with something snappy too? Nah..not worth the effort.
I love people like this -before you post please read the FAQ and guides stickied at the top of the pilot forum. If you do this you might not end up looking like a total idiot when you post!Example - "But now Imperials have a viable fighter to go toe-to-toe with an A-wing based on speed, size, YPR and loadout."
This shows you to be stupid and unkowledgable of the pilot profession as EVERY good pilot knows that the Imperial fleet had THREE ships that where MORE than a match for the A-wing, however the JSF isnt a match with the Awing, it has TWICE the firepower, 50% more mass and 2.5 times the manouverability - its is nowhere near balanced! As our none of the other ROTW ships!
I don't mind looking like an idiot. It's that I do best. And when I mean viable, I mean comparable in those terms I listed, nothing more. Have you seen the YPR on an Oppressor lately? Yeah, it's not even close. Haven't played with my Advanced for a while, but it might be closer,and the Interceptor even closer still. But the Interceptor has less mass, etc, etc, so at that level, it doesn't match up well with a knowledgeable pilot flying an A-wing. Believe me, I've tried. But say what you want, I don't mind..I'll be off flying while you're debating about what nerfs you want done to the JSF.
Just curious as to your thoughts on that.
AelricMistrider wrote:
And if the other ships are so out of whack, how come nobody has started a thread calling for an ARC-170 nerf? Hell, what about the Royal Guard Interceptor? Should we nerf that too?
Just curious as to your thoughts on that.
I have said this before - all ROTW ships need balancing now - if they dont get it they will be removed/nerfed in future!
Message Edited by CuchulainnDarklight on 05-24-2005 09:04 AM
/salute
rcoe6663 wrote:
i know you love your ships manuverability, and speed, (Yeah, it is quite nice... matched by at least 2 other ships I own though...) however unless you want to pay for someone elses deed (??? I don't know what youmean here? But, I got some cash!) i suggest that you either dont go overt or PAY ATTENTION. ive heard on these boards that people think the ship is invincible, however i dont see it. (People just cry when someone gets something they don't... even though.. they can...) i just shot down someone flying their jsf in kassyyyke(or however you spell it) space this was at least my 5th pvp kill of one of the new ep3 fighters and quite frankley im not impressed. (I agree, it's not the ship that makes the kill. It's the pilot.)
edit: and forcomparison i was in a standard xwing at the time. (mmmm.. those are tasty!)
edit 2: to answer some of the questions. i only use lasers, never liked missles. two of the JSF pilots i shot down were aware i was after them, 1 was not. the pilot of the ARC knew i was after him. but i jumped the pilot of the grevous fighter(though if your overt and you get jumped its your own fault). (Agreed, I hear missles are on the rise again due to these new ships. Though.. sure has been a longtime since someone shot me down pre or post ROTW ships...)
JediNg wrote:
I think the JSF needs to lose the ordnance slot.
- Royal Guard TIE Intercepter for PvP and just screwin around.
- Eta Actis 2 for when I'm helping someone with their missions or if I'm in the mood for a duty mission (loot whoring)
- Oppressor - This is my uber mining vessel. Everything I need for mining plus major beefey components and 3 missle slots for the getaway if neccesary.
- Heavy TIE - I think I've flown it 3 times so far. It's loaded out and ready to have fun but I just haven't had the chance/desire to take it out yet. Maybe I'll use it for PvP to switch things up a bit.
- Decimator - Player events mainly. I also like to use it if I'm taking a crew to the Avatar platform, great space bus.
- Y-8 It's shaping up nicely. Currently loaded out pretty nice but I have a lot of mining I need to finish before I can get everything I want for it crafted. Going to load it out with all the new POB/Y8 only components. Mainly for the fun factor. Currently setup with a full service cantinna inside.. lmao!
For perspective sake look at it like this. I'm obviously Imperial. I love a good PvP fight! If I just go around owning everyone I see at the first onset of any combat then it's no fun for them. If it's no fun for them they don't come back. Which leaves me with one less opponent. Thats my reason for supporting any changes to any of the new ships.
I want JTL to be fun for everyone. I want to see PvP last more than a single pass at 1650 max speed. I hate "NERF's" but I fully support any "balance" that will lengthen PvP and make JTL more fun for everyone. rebel pilots are still totally unorganized on Ahazi. That was per-ROTW, now they have another excuse not to go to DS "The JSF is unstoppable!".
True, not true.. doesn't matter to me. I support JTL and the Pilot community. Anything that promotes more pilots in the air, I support even if it means I have to give a little.
/salute
Who is whining for a nerf - 90% of the people are asking for the ships to be balanced!
GadonThek wrote:
You can spot the real Rebel aces on my server easily too: they're the ones out there killing experianced JSF pilots as opposed to spending their time whining for a nerf on the forums.