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Thread: Petition: One more weapon slot in the Firespray
CassiusK wrote:
People shouldn't have to get flamed in a civil world, mon ami. I soloed the vette in my X-wing. Does that count?
Why do you suppose everyone loves the Krayt? Because it -is- exactly what I'm arguing that the Firespray should be more like. What's the main difference between these two ships? Guns. They're almost exactly the same in all other respects.
Message Edited by CassiusK on 03-31-2005 01:57 AM
i SO agree with you, i am also sick of all the players who say: "well I can do this and that with my duel lvl 10multi-uber-Re'd to the 10th dragon killer 0.9999 efectivness cannons, so you should be able to too."
what they doint say, is that they either spent many many many many hours trying to loot 20 Lvl 10 guns to RE them or jsut bought them somehow, i dunno. i imagain the number of pilot players on each server who even HAVE re'd lvl 10 guns is a small minority. i am still going for my first, and i am a double ace who spends 80% of my game time in space. (i am also the guild SW, so i get all the loot. i have in my over 2500 RE atempts only RE'd ONE lvl 10 gun and it went to our main MP ship)
u can spend 10 hours in space and not loot even one lvl 10 gun, u will be lucky to loot even a few lvl 7-9's. and i am talkgin about killign T5's.
SO plz stop the: "oh just get duel RE'd lvl 10 5k+ damage guns. thats like saying: "oh you mean u dont have a legendary 3k max damage T-21 enablng you to get your loot rights off this krayt dragon i am now goingn to KS you?"
That's your problem then, I looted 20+ L10's of 20+ T4 Black Sun Destroy missions, still no helmet though. T5's in Kessel and Deep Space never dropped anything good for me. And that's why we're saying gettwo RE'd L10's. They're not that hard too get.
Zaax wrote:
u can spend 10 hours in space and not loot even one lvl 10 gun, u will be lucky to loot even a few lvl 7-9's. and i am talkgin about killign T5's.
Zaax wrote:
CassiusK wrote:
People shouldn't have to get flamed in a civil world, mon ami. I soloed the vette in my X-wing. Does that count?
Why do you suppose everyone loves the Krayt? Because it -is- exactly what I'm arguing that the Firespray should be more like. What's the main difference between these two ships? Guns. They're almost exactly the same in all other respects.Message Edited by CassiusK on 03-31-2005 01:57 AM
i SO agree with you, i am also sick of all the players who say: "well I can do this and that with my duel lvl 10 multi-uber-Re'd to the 10th dragon killer 0.9999 efectivness cannons, so you should be able to too."
what they doint say, is that they either spent many many many many hours trying to loot 20 Lvl 10 guns to RE them or jsut bought them somehow, i dunno. i imagain the number of pilot players on each server who even HAVE re'd lvl 10 guns is a small minority. i am still going for my first, and i am a double ace who spends 80% of my game time in space. (i am also the guild SW, so i get all the loot. i have in my over 2500 RE atempts only RE'd ONE lvl 10 gun and it went to our main MP ship)
u can spend 10 hours in space and not loot even one lvl 10 gun, u will be lucky to loot even a few lvl 7-9's. and i am talkgin about killign T5's.
SO plz stop the: "oh just get duel RE'd lvl 10 5k+ damage guns. thats like saying: "oh you mean u dont have a legendary 3k max damage T-21 enablng you to get your loot rights off this krayt dragon i am now goingn to KS you?"
ANYWAY, i /sign this petition, as reb i too rarely use my KSE, becasue i am FAR btr in my x-wing. oh and btw, i am using a lvl 10 , 94 speed, 81/80/83 engine. so i even got great manouverabiluty.i dont care WHAT the KSE oficail look is, and what is says on the specs, or "well all ships need to be different" i ship that takes the efort and time to get, like the KSE, should be btr, sry.
Right on, bro! This was the funniest and most truthful post I've read.
Maybe there's something wrong with our server, but level 10 drops of any kind are extremely rare, and of all the level 10 items, weapons drop the least. In the many weeks that I've been space looting, I've only picked up ONE level 10 weapon. Frustrated, I tried buying them from vendors instead... but guess what? I can't find them anywhere. I posted on the trade forums, and nada. I posted on the shipwright forum and they told me to go looting. lol
Putting level 10 guns in your ship is not as easy as it sounds on our server, much less RE'd ones.
Those that argue that 2 RE'd level 10 guns in my Firespray are the answer to my woes, I beg to differ. A friend of mine space looted for a couple months to get 3 level 10 weapons (not RE'd, since he only has three) to put into his Krayt. I've seen his ship in action... I'd be damned if I don't want the Firespray to have the potential to dish out that kind of punishment!
CassiusK wrote:
Actually, I'm talking about all three areas. In PVP, the Firespray compares poorly with other ships because of its large profile or 'hit box', if you will, and because its accel., decel. and PYR rates are slower than most chassis that people prefer to use in PVP.
Yes, it does. Why? Because the people you are referring to prefer light fighters and the KSE is not a light fighter. It has the mass of a heavy and the speed/turning of a medium/heavy.
CassiusK wrote:
In PVE, well, you're right that one has very little difficulty killing NPC ships of any kind in this ship. But the same can be said for just about any ship in this game with the right equipment and know-how. The problem, as I see it, is with the speed (and effort) associated with acquiring said kills. The Firespray is less manoeuvrable than other smaller fighters, and it is therefore inherently more difficult to stay on the tails of opposing fighters. I believe, to make up for this deficiency, an extra weapon slot would make up the difference. With an extra gun, I'd be more inclined to use this ship in PVE than my other ships. Maybe in PVP too.
No, no, no. It is less maneuverable and the other side of that is the sheer mass you can load into it. It may *only* have one more weapon than an Advanced/A-Wing and the same number as a Duneliz, but there's NO WAY I can load a pair of RE'd level 10 weapons into my Duneliz. I am currently using an 8 and a 7 and typically get out damaged by X-Wing wingmates, let alone what a good pilot can do in a KSE.
CassiusK wrote:
As for loot competition, see my argument for PVE. Lowered manoeuvrability should be made up for with added firepower if you wish to compete with other fighters.
And I stand behind the fact that weapon slots are NOT the equalizer, mass is. My "drop two level 10 weapons in it and stop complaining" comment was not exactly eloquent, but it is something pilots in smaller ships CAN NOT DO.
Shona
While its true that level 10 guns are harder to get than most other space loot, I have to disagree with those of you who are acting like its next to impossible. I've already RE'd five level 10 guns on my server, and I'm currently sitting on the parts to RE two more. I've also already sold on my vendor enough parts to RE yet another two. As for the ones I've RE'd for myself, they have all had stats of at least 2800-4600 damage, .8/.8, and under 47k mass.
CassiusK wrote:
Putting level 10 guns in your ship is not as easy as it sounds on our server, much less RE'd ones.
Imaridril wrote:While its true that level 10 guns are harder to get than most other space loot, I have to disagree with those of you who are acting like its next to impossible. I've already RE'd five level 10 guns on my server, and I'm currently sitting on the parts to RE two more. I've also already sold on my vendor enough parts to RE yet another two. As for the ones I've RE'd for myself, they have all had stats of at least 2800-4600 damage, .8/.8, and under 47k mass.
CassiusK wrote:
Putting level 10 guns in your ship is not as easy as it sounds on our server, much less RE'd ones.
Now I wish I was on Starsider. I'd be contacting you.
Ezis wrote:
moot point. Until the Oppressor outguns the firespray, you have nothing to argue about.
Exactly. There isn't an Imperial ship with more then 2 hardpoints, and they seem great. Firespray is good as is with 2.
Washell wrote:
That's your problem then, I looted 20+ L10's of 20+ T4 Black Sun Destroy missions, still no helmet though. T5's in Kessel and Deep Space never dropped anything good for me. And that's why we're saying gettwo RE'd L10's. They're not that hard too get.
Zaax wrote:
u can spend 10 hours in space and not loot even one lvl 10 gun, u will be lucky to loot even a few lvl 7-9's. and i am talkgin about killign T5's.
Oh, and a Black Sun destroy mission lasts one to twohours, depending on your ship and how fast you're trying to kill them.
i can finish a BS duty in less than an hour, solo. the only thing of worth i ever got was the the ace helm. and i cant even THROW it at an enemy. oh and lots and lots of garbage loot. but even the garbage loot drops not often. 2 night ago on a compleat duty, i looted only 20 items. (1 duty is about what, 150 craft? roguhly?)
and some of you guys looted 5 lvl 10 blasters in 3 nights? uhhh yea.
Zaax wrote:
and some of you guys looted 5 lvl 10 blasters in 3 nights? uhhh yea.
You do understand that quantiy of loot is skewed to the low end, right? It's part of a change they made called "tier appropriate loot" shortly after release. Your quantiy on tier4-5 is lower, but the chances for higher levels is much better.
Zaax wrote:
Washell wrote:
That's your problem then, I looted 20+ L10's of 20+ T4 Black Sun Destroy missions, still no helmet though. T5's in Kessel and Deep Space never dropped anything good for me. And that's why we're saying gettwo RE'd L10's. They're not that hard too get.
Zaax wrote:
u can spend 10 hours in space and not loot even one lvl 10 gun, u will be lucky to loot even a few lvl 7-9's. and i am talkgin about killign T5's.
Oh, and a Black Sun destroy mission lasts one to twohours, depending on your ship and how fast you're trying to kill them.
i can finish a BS duty in less than an hour, solo. the only thing of worth i ever got was the the ace helm. and i cant even THROW it at an enemy. oh and lots and lots of garbage loot. but even the garbage loot drops not often. 2 night ago on a compleat duty, i looted only 20 items. (1 duty is about what, 150 craft? roguhly?)
and some of you guys looted 5 lvl 10 blasters in 3 nights? uhhh yea.