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Thread: can players train pilot skills?

Darth-Malus
Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:58 am
#27






psikobunny wrote:
I think you're generalizing, and reading too much into the original posts. There was frustration yes, a lack of mission understanding yes, an economic misconception yes, but very little actual whining and pity me. Lumping somone you don't know into that crowd based on a couple frustrated pilot posts? Yeah, your tone was over the top.





Here's what I saw:


He's ready to give up in spite of solutions offered. "Then I guess I'm done" isn't pity me?


He wants us to believe that he can't possibly make his ship fast enough to complete delivery missions without fighting everything along the way.


He hasn't even begun to use flight computers or droid commands and he's Tier 3! And he'd like us to believe that the reason why is not because he doesn't know or doesn't want to, but that somehow he's been desperately looking a for one from the beginning and can't find one because of the dearth of DEs on Flurry.


All BS, plain and simple. The guy wants to be able to learn Tier 3 skills from a player because he can't actually hack the Tier 3 missions. No, I'm not nice to people like that - nor do I see a need to encourage such behavior. This mentality of "blame everyone else, never accept any responsibility for one's own shortcomings or mistakes" is pervasive in our society and the result is that decent people have to take too much crap from stupid people who are the cause of their own problems.






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Wonbad
Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:11 am
#28






Darth-Malus wrote:

Don't try acting all superior when you were the one who created this attempted pity party.


You complained, help was offered, you continued to make excuses - you didn't want help, you wanted people to make you feel good about yourself, to tell you it wasn't your fault, whatever.


It's not "imagined" elitism. It's a simple fact that, by your own admission, you seem incapable of accomplishing what others have done - and you're ready to throw in the towel because of it. If that's how you approach a game, you're in for a lot of other diappointments in life.


You might want to learn to be humble when accepting criticism that you asked for - because you sure have nothing to be proud of when you make excuses about it.







dude you're the onlybumpkin trying to act superior here. you might wanna check yourself before trying to jump just anyone. i did not come here for pity and saying i'm done was meant that i cannot be bothered with anymore frustration. simple as that so reading any more into it is your own deal. frankly w-t-f do you care wether i do it or not? it certainly should be of no concern to you either way and your tone is completely uncalled for. who might you be any way? oh some jerk playing a game who likes to talk big on a public message board. that's what i thought. your help specifically was not needed since it's no help at all.


now good day and get over yourself already.





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jason67
Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:30 am
#29

you can do those missions solo, you just need more experience. Better equipment can help alot as well.


I have mastered pilot on two different characters so far, and finally started my last character on pilot. I was running the space mission to enter the kashyyyk hunting grounds (before I started my pilot). I was 0000 pilot or novice pilot. I was using the novice pilot ship that the recruiter gives you, and I ran the first mission and halfway through the second mission solo. This makes me at 0000 pilot face as many as 7+ tier 3 awings at several different places. The first mission you are to meet a ship to deliver hides.


I flew out to meet the ship and was quickly met up by 3 hostile tier3 Awings. I did a little dogfighting with them and hypered out to another sector in the area in an attempt to avoid the tier3 awings. Unfortunately about mid way between my new jump point and my target ship I got a second spawn of t3 awings. I decided at this point that I needed to fight it out or I would never make it, keeping in mind that I can't outrun them since I'm in a starter ship. I spent a little time fighting with these 3 ships and finally took one down (takes forever with default start ship weapons/components). Before I could get any other destroyed my first set of t3 awings caught up with us. so I was now dogfighting with 5 t3 awings. it was slow but I was able to work them down and take them out one by one and make it to my target to deliver the hides.


the next section of the mission you are faced with an escort in kashyyyk space. I get the first wave of t3 awings and start going at them. Very shortly after that wave I geta second wave of 3 more t3 awings and 1 xwing. I'm going at them hoping that I can take them out without anymore spawning, but unfortunatley I ended up with the 3rd spawn hitting me, another set of awings into the frey. Once I hit 10 ships I was manuevering like mad trying to avoid taking as much damage as possible. I lasted for quite some time, and was able to drop one ship with 10 attacking me, but there were just simply too many, I couldn't avoid enough shots to last long enough to take them out. But I just thought I'd share this story with you to let you know that it is possible regardless of equipment to take out ODDS well beyond what you would think. It simply will take some time and experience on your part as a pilot before you can manage that. This was my 3rd pilot I was grinding so I'm a veteran pilot and know how to fight against various targets since each of my pilots is of a different faction.


You will get better and the missions are a very good start to helping you understand how to take targets individually as well as in groups. If you keep flying you will learn what tricks to use, what droid commands help (in the above story I obviously didn't have any droid commands since I was in a starter ship). Droid commands make a huge difference once you get high enough to use a couple. I leveled the above pilot up from 0000 pilot up to 3322 pilot in a matter of only a few hours (probably about 6 hours of flying). I have since taken him into kessel and faced down tier5 tie interceptors/advanced/oppressors, every ship that I could that didn't have turrets. My ship and pilot are good but I just don't think they can handle any tier5's with turrets yet. I may be able to tage an aggressor, but it's simply not worth the aggrivation to make the attempt. I still find that grinding on tier4's is an easier way to make XP though. Tier5's are just too fast and end up taking up too much time for me to kill to make good xp. Tier4's I can drop quickly and they give almost as much XP.





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Darth-Malus
Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:10 pm
#30






Wonbad wrote:


i did not come here for pity and saying i'm done was meant that i cannot be bothered with anymore frustration. simple as that so reading any more into it is your own deal. frankly w-t-f do you care wether i do it or not? it certainly should be of no concern to you either way and your tone is completely uncalled for. who might you be any way?





Someone who got over it instead of throwing in the towel like you did. Why should I care? Well, you tell me - you're the one who created the thread. If you don't want the opinions of others, don't solicit them. If I'm a "jerk" for giving you a wake up call, what's that make someone who gives up when a game gets a little difficult? What would you call someone who counters every solution with an excuse? You can try to talk down to me if that's what you need to feel better about yourself, Mister "I quit pilot because Tier 3 was too tough for me"...




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JediNg
Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:02 pm
#31






Darth-Malus wrote:






Wonbad wrote:


i did not come here for pity and saying i'm done was meant that i cannot be bothered with anymore frustration. simple as that so reading any more into it is your own deal. frankly w-t-f do you care wether i do it or not? it certainly should be of no concern to you either way and your tone is completely uncalled for. who might you be any way?





Someone who got over it instead of throwing in the towel like you did. Why should I care? Well, you tell me - you're the one who created the thread. If you don't want the opinions of others, don't solicit them. If I'm a "jerk" for giving you a wake up call, what's that make someone who gives up when a game gets a little difficult? What would you call someone who counters every solution with an excuse? You can try to talk down to me if that's what you need to feel better about yourself, Mister "I quit pilot because Tier 3 was too tough for me"...





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Wonbad
Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:39 pm
#32






Darth-Malus wrote:




Someone who got over it instead of throwing in the towel like you did.






for the record i advanced and did it solo i might add. pure luck but i'll take it.


anyway.........i'll leave it at that.



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Pretending he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
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Darth-Malus
Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:08 pm
#33

Congratulations. See, persistence pays off.




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JeebusCrisp
Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:16 pm
#34



Darth-Malus wrote:
Congratulations. See, persistence pays off.





Or actually LOOKING on the bazaar for certain pieces of equipment.



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