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Thread: we hear much about old timers and their distain for ROTW ships but......

Soul-Reaper
Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:28 pm
#27






Guyvii2 wrote:

I am hearing so much about old timers and their loud distain for ROTW ships. What about their pre nerf equipment.

Does it not sound a little hypocritecal to critisize people using ships the devs have given and feel are ok , vs. people using equipment the dev have felt are not balanced and have been fixed. ie.. droid interfaces. who cares if the JSF has great turning . If you have an early engine with 70 ish or 80 ish YPR , heck you could get a tier 2 ship to stay behind a JSF and never let it get a shot at you. Does that make a pilot in a ship L337? Fair would be a PVP event with issued started ships. someone was thinking of this . That would rock.

It is a game and everyone should use what the devs let you play with. Do not try to make people play your game, becuase it is not your game. It is all of our game. Have fun and be a good sport and we do not need to worry about it.







Most of the complaints I'm reading about in regards to the RoTW ships is that they are the best ships in the game... can be acquired by everyone... and cannot be made by a shipwright. This takes a lot of business away from the shipwright profession.


Makes no sense that shipwrights cannot get schematics to make the JSF or Heavy XWing. Imagine.. if you will... doing quests to get schematics or key items for these ships (like the AV-21 has). Makes a lot of sense to do it that way rather than just *giving* them away to people.





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Robja
Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:19 pm
#28

I love the new ships. The variety I see in DS these days is much more entertaining, win or lose(mostly lose). I fly a JSF because I personally think they're too cool for school. I, in no way am trying to overcompensate by using a "cheater" ship or whatever. I'm wellaware that I suck at space PVP. Bendo has personally given me a free trip to the Dathomir Space Station many a time.


Anyway, I'm getting sidetracked. I've been on-and-off with space PVP over the last few months. And I do know I got really bored seeing the same ships in DS everytime I visited way back when. Every Rebel was in most cases using an A-wing, and Imperials were either using an Interceptor or an Advanced, like I used. Now,there areMORE ships that make me say"Oh sh!t! Not one of these!" What more could I ask for? I just hate when I get someone who relies on missles trying to kill me.


Oh, I guess I should mention my packrat instincts landed me two level 1 DI's. Yup, you guessed it, pre-nerf. Didn't even realize what I had until my SW friend found them in my storage.


Closing, I give ROTW ships the thumbs-up as well as that pizza at Dominos with the steak all over it one, too.
paolo_ikro
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:01 am
#29

I am not the best pilot by far but what I have to say is fairly interesting...


When JTL came out I got one of my toons to 4333 rebel pilot and I never really went much further, I found it hard in the small ships especially the A-wing. When ROTW came out there was some new ships to use and I really liked the ARC-170, but found it hard to hit anything with it. In the last couple of weeks I went and did the JSF quest and I thought that this was an excellent ship and have spent most of my time in this until now. I longed to go back to my A-wing, and so I have now finally kitted it out and although it has a lowmass it is intensely satisfying to fly. My set up is mainly made up of items that can be bought from SW vendors, but I find it loads of fun tackling the Imperial Star Destroyer in this.


I think that for the majority of players, the additional mass you have in the ROTW fighters like the JSF and the Belbulab are very helpful in allowing you to learn how to combat better in them. Going back to the A-wing is something that I thought I would find much harder. However, having learned to fly in the ROTW fighters I have realised that you do not always need to have the additional ordnance of Missiles or Bombs. With this in mind I find that now my A-Wing is my ship of choice, unless I am helping other people with quests. On my rebel pilot I have used the B-Wing as my mining ship, my Heavy X-wing very rarely gets used, and my KSE Firespray is there for support. On my Neutral pilot I use the JSF as my ship of choice, the Heavy Vaksai is fun, but in my opinion is slightly limiting, and I have a YT-1300 because I can.


The only programs I use are Reactor Overload 3, Weapon Capacitor Overcharge 3, Weapon Overload 3, Engine Overload 3 and Weapon Capacitor to Shield Shunt 4.


I can only imagine what the pre nerf items would have done to make my A-Wing better, but for now this is actually a whole load of fun. I would certainly encourage any rebel pilots to try using one. Not only are they small and manouverable, but I get a real sense of achievement when I successfully complete missions. The only thing I haven't tried in my A-Wing is pvp, but this is down to the lack of pilots in Deep Space at any one time...I can't say I will be any good at it, but I am willing to give it a try.


I hope this helps other pilots in some way.




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Kyodor
Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:34 pm
#30

The ROTW ships are overpowered.

As if the A-Wing wasn't deadly enough, make it tiny and bump up the mass and you get the Actis.

Space was pretty much the only aspect of SWG that was remotely balanced before they brought these things in.



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LeaphChausew
Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:42 pm
#31






Kyodor wrote:
The ROTW ships are overpowered.

As if the A-Wing wasn't deadly enough, make it tiny and bump up the mass and you get the Actis.

Space was pretty much the only aspect of SWG that was remotely balanced before they brought these things in.






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xTekx
Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:46 pm
#32

Haha i think that's a good name for them.. Things..


As for the Awing.. it is Balanced.. Yes, they're hard to hit, but not as hard as a JSF or RGI.. and it doesn't ahve the mass that the JSF meaning I have to choose wisely what I want in it. Big engine, small gun small shield.. medium engine, medium gun, small shield.. yada yada.. it's a choice.. which the JSF doesn't really have.. hmm.. i'll take that engine splat.. that shield.. splat.. and those 2 weps.. splat..



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Rfnetman
Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:46 pm
#33






Soul-Reaper wrote:



doing quests to get schematics or key items for these ships (like the AV-21 has). Makes a lot of sense to do it that way rather than just *giving* them away to people.







fighting NK, or taking on a corvette hardly constitutes "giving" them away. beside why should i be forced to go to a SW,pay thousandsof creditswhen i want a new ship. presonally i think its much more rewarding to earn a ship, then just to fork over money


LeaphChausew
Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:51 pm
#34






Rfnetman wrote:





Soul-Reaper wrote:



doing quests to get schematics or key items for these ships (like the AV-21 has). Makes a lot of sense to do it that way rather than just *giving* them away to people.







fighting NK, or taking on a corvette hardly constitutes "giving" them away. beside why should i be forced to go to a SW,pay thousandsof creditswhen i want a new ship. presonally i think its much more rewarding to earn a ship, then just to fork over money







Well I guess from a Cmbt lvl 27 such as myself on the ground....the chances of me getting a GSF without resorting to buying one of the thousands which the Jedi folk farmis next to impossible . Although, I just bought one...and then burned it while chanting hexes against them and worshipping that ship which er..I'll shut up now.

Soul-Reaper
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:21 pm
#35






Rfnetman wrote:





Soul-Reaper wrote:



doing quests to get schematics or key items for these ships (like the AV-21 has). Makes a lot of sense to do it that way rather than just *giving* them away to people.







fighting NK, or taking on a corvette hardly constitutes "giving" them away. beside why should i be forced to go to a SW,pay thousandsof creditswhen i want a new ship. presonally i think its much more rewarding to earn a ship, then just to fork over money







So should ship components decay from use like everything else so that shipwrights havea steady flow of customers like everyone else in the game?


Heaven forbid that you have to spend some money on a ship rather than get 2 buddies together, run out to Necrosis, and kill him in 5 minutes to get a new ship.





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Alyxian
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:35 pm
#36






Rfnetman wrote:


fighting NK, or taking on a corvette hardly constitutes "giving" them away. beside why should i be forced to go to a SW,pay thousandsof creditswhen i want a new ship. presonally i think its much more rewarding to earn a ship, then just to fork over money







The RGI is just given away, I had to do tougher missions in Black Epsilon and Storm Squadron in tier 3 than I did to get the RGI.


Gimme a break, it was easy.





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Rfnetman
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:51 pm
#37






Soul-Reaper wrote:





Rfnetman wrote:





Soul-Reaper wrote:



doing quests to get schematics or key items for these ships (like the AV-21 has). Makes a lot of sense to do it that way rather than just *giving* them away to people.







fighting NK, or taking on a corvette hardly constitutes "giving" them away. beside why should i be forced to go to a SW,pay thousandsof creditswhen i want a new ship. presonally i think its much more rewarding to earn a ship, then just to fork over money







So should ship components decay from use like everything else so that shipwrights havea steady flow of customers like everyone else in the game?


Heaven forbid that you have to spend some money on a ship rather than get 2 buddies together, run out to Necrosis, and kill him in 5 minutes to get a new ship




what are you talking, every time i repair something it decays. if you are talking just about the chass it self, then no. "Heaven forbid" i just shell out money rather then earn it.

Rfnetman
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:52 pm
#38






Alyxian wrote:





Rfnetman wrote:


fighting NK, or taking on a corvette hardly constitutes "giving" them away. beside why should i be forced to go to a SW,pay thousandsof creditswhen i want a new ship. presonally i think its much more rewarding to earn a ship, then just to fork over money







The RGI is just given away, I had to do tougher missions in Black Epsilon and Storm Squadron in tier 3 than I did to get the RGI.


Gimme a break, it was easy.








yup, im sure it as just handed to you , but w/e
Alyxian
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:58 pm
#39

I call less than an hours easygame time, and almost half of it running proggies because I had to run to the planet for missions, giving it to me. I think there was even a silver platter involved.


Same with the JSF, hardest part getting that one was waiting in line at the bones. Another 30 min after that and I had a ship, no silver plater this time, but hell I even got it GIVEN to me before I completed the quest.


So yes, they were given to me, for very minimal work





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