Pilot Archive
Thread: The current state of PVP and the ROTW ships influence.
To be perfectly blunt, the only things I will shamelessly rant about are loadkillers and even more hated by myself..e-pulsers.
The current state of pvp is fairly ok because those with the ability to e-pulse tend to be honourable and not make use of it. There is no point in pvp if the sole reason is to have fun (which it is) so e-pulsing and therefore reducing pvp encounters to two second nothingnesses is pointless. We have overpowered ships yeh, but they're not unkillable. Even the uber pilots in the uber ships occasionally die to the guns of my A-wing, however...that 'I win' command is unforgiveable and practically speaking,un-counterable.
Ok. Time to stop ranting about that.
Maudee wrote:
I reativated a month or two ago to find that ROTW had introduced new ships. Like many people the first thing I did was rush off to get my hands on a JSF. After logging countless hours in my TIE Adv, TIE Int, and Oppressor, a new ship was a welcome breath of fresh air.
The newness wore off in a week...
So you're telling me I can fit a lvl 10 RE engine in a ship and still have room for a full strenth shield, two high lvl RE weapons a booster and a CM launcher...? Why would I ever fly my old ships again?!
As most of the pilot community has found, the JSF is the end all for PVP. No other ship has as many strengths as it does. Because of this it has been widely rejected and those who pilot it for the sole purpose of PVP shunned.
Thank the maker. JSF vs. JSF battles are increadibly boring.
So what about the other ROTW ships? Why are we allowing their presense to affect our ship selection?
Every Sunday on Bloodfin we have a PVP event. (msg Starscream or xTekx for info) And up until the last couple of weeks, I would show up to find mostly Tie heavies, Xwing heavies, Z95 heavies and the occassional JSF/B22. The worst part is, as much as I've grown to hate these ships, I normally would show up in a TIE heavy.
In the last two weeks that trend has changed somewhat. People have been going out on a limb and flying specialized fighters. Ayanami and her Awing with a lvl 10 RE engine and no shields. Nesanya and his tricked out TIE Int. Nearro and his Oppressor (which I'm still in awe from, btw). This trend forced me to evalutate my ship decisions. I immediately wondered why I cared if a heavy X with a lvl 10 RE would manage to vape me in a circle fight while in my pre-ROTW TIE's. So I built my own TIE Int.
50k mass and one gun, how the hell would I compete with a JSF/Heavy varient? The answer was simple, I won't. Regardless I took the first step back towards the retro ships and will never go back.
Let me tell you, nothing is more satisfying than vaping a JSF in a bone stock, pre-ROTW Intercepter. Granted the odds are generally against me if the pilot is experienced, but who cares.
And that is exactly the message I'm trying to put accross with post. Since when did we care if some noob in a JSF can occassionally blast us out of the sky? We're pilots, not uber leet jedi. I don't fly to have the best Kill/Death ratio. I won't missle someone if I'm in a 5v2 on the 5 side. Nor would I EP3 someone just to get a kill. Leave that to the weekend warrior pilots with their crafted engines and IR2 launching macros.
I urge the pilot community to start being true pilots again. Re kit your ship this week for an upcoming PVP event. Throw that lvl 10 blaster in an Awing with a lvl 6 engine. Dust off that old pre-ROTW xwing. Drop the lvl 8 reward RE shield and fly a 65k mass fighter with a lvl 10 engine and the biggest weapon you can fit. Become inventive in your ship kitting again, and add to the diversity which is so lacking in PVP.
Its time we quit our whining and start doing something about it. Don't let space turn into the SWG ground pvp.
And when you manage to pull off a 50% win/loss ratio at your next event in that goofy ship you kitted, smile and realize that you just had fun.
-Maudee
Imperial Pilot, Bloodfin
Well said.
Maudee wrote:
I reativated a month or two ago to find that ROTW had introduced new ships. Like many people the first thing I did was rush off to get my hands on a JSF. After logging countless hours in my TIE Adv, TIE Int, and Oppressor, a new ship was a welcome breath of fresh air.
The newness wore off in a week...
So you're telling me I can fit a lvl 10 RE engine in a ship and still have room for a full strenth shield, two high lvl RE weapons a booster and a CM launcher...? Why would I ever fly my old ships again?!
As most of the pilot community has found, the JSF is the end all for PVP. No other ship has as many strengths as it does. Because of this it has been widely rejected and those who pilot it for the sole purpose of PVP shunned.
Thank the maker. JSF vs. JSF battles are increadibly boring.
So what about the other ROTW ships? Why are we allowing their presense to affect our ship selection?
Every Sunday on Bloodfin we have a PVP event. (msg Starscream or xTekx for info) And up until the last couple of weeks, I would show up to find mostly Tie heavies, Xwing heavies, Z95 heavies and the occassional JSF/B22. The worst part is, as much as I've grown to hate these ships, I normally would show up in a TIE heavy.
In the last two weeks that trend has changed somewhat. People have been going out on a limb and flying specialized fighters. Ayanami and her Awing with a lvl 10 RE engine and no shields. Nesanya and his tricked out TIE Int. Nearro and his Oppressor (which I'm still in awe from, btw). This trend forced me to evalutate my ship decisions. I immediately wondered why I cared if a heavy X with a lvl 10 RE would manage to vape me in a circle fight while in my pre-ROTW TIE's. So I built my own TIE Int.
50k mass and one gun, how the hell would I compete with a JSF/Heavy varient? The answer was simple, I won't. Regardless I took the first step back towards the retro ships and will never go back.
Let me tell you, nothing is more satisfying than vaping a JSF in a bone stock, pre-ROTW Intercepter. Granted the odds are generally against me if the pilot is experienced, but who cares.
And that is exactly the message I'm trying to put accross with post. Since when did we care if some noob in a JSF can occassionally blast us out of the sky? We're pilots, not uber leet jedi. I don't fly to have the best Kill/Death ratio. I won't missle someone if I'm in a 5v2 on the 5 side. Nor would I EP3 someone just to get a kill. Leave that to the weekend warrior pilots with their crafted engines and IR2 launching macros.
I urge the pilot community to start being true pilots again. Re kit your ship this week for an upcoming PVP event. Throw that lvl 10 blaster in an Awing with a lvl 6 engine. Dust off that old pre-ROTW xwing. Drop the lvl 8 reward RE shield and fly a 65k mass fighter with a lvl 10 engine and the biggest weapon you can fit. Become inventive in your ship kitting again, and add to the diversity which is so lacking in PVP.
Its time we quit our whining and start doing something about it. Don't let space turn into the SWG ground pvp.
And when you manage to pull off a 50% win/loss ratio at your next event in that goofy ship you kitted, smile and realize that you just had fun.
-Maudee
Imperial Pilot, Bloodfin
You're a little late to the show, but damned good to have you on board. 
Janu Hull, Actis Killing A-Wing pilot, at your service.
Wonderful post pal, beautiful 
/bow
Your call is very similar to the one in the GCW forums now... they are going to create a jedi-free, pure starwasy GCW on Test center using two massive guilds (imps and rebs) fighting guildwars all the time.
FWIW, I'm allmost finished with a great revamp for my beloved T/A. Being totally honest,I was not expecting it to become my main pvp ship (I have also a vaksai project and i'm getting close to improve my RGI one) but now maybe it does... or maybe... I'll jump to an a-wing and follow the steps of Leaph... I dunno, somehow... after reading HUNDREDS of postabout that shipI have curiosity ^^
Message Edited by Joint_Maker on 09-01-2005 12:52 PM
What a great post Maudee.
Thoroughly bored of seeing JSF and Bell-22 out in DS.
May go totally crazy and Take My B-wing off Mining duty, callsign TORTON-1 btw
For ROTW ships, I will say I have no problem flying my Advanced X-Wing. Its a healthy sized target, and the perfect step up after the Heavy Z-95. I also won't grouch about the Vaksai, because its not much more than an Advanced Khyrz with major performance improvement. I wish to god the Devs would fix the Royal Guard TIE, then the Imperials would have a decent high performance ship that couldn't be grouched about.