Pilot Archive
Thread: Space pvp ...more pointless than ground pvp ??
mjPboy wrote:FYI i was in an opressor for a laugh
Tis true
Opressor rules tbh just because it cant turn
its more interesting then getting out my jsf and turning so easily.
Oppressors outfitted properly are extremely deadly in PvP. Fire 3 missiles up thier tail pipe and see if they can chaff all 3...no usually.
It is all about the tactics
Hotkey " /throttle .40" and pull hard on all 3 axis and see how fast it can turn.
What I read here is yet another player who merely wants to use Deep Space as a risk-free looting/farming ground. Duties and other safer static spawns exist for that. Just be thankful you bought it in Deep Space and not Kessel. I'm betting you weren't around for the PvP there - judging by your post history mostly residing in ANOTHER specific profession forum oft chided for their desire for ever-simplification, I'm not surprised.
As Rapax said, it can sometimes take 5+ minutes to land ONE shot. I spent MONTHS setting up a configuration that can take a hit from a well-REed WO3ed L8 reward blaster and still remain flight-and-fightworthy. I succeeded.
But hey, if it takes TIME, it MUST suck, right? In this ADDled culture anything that takes longer than 24 hours just ain't fun, right?
Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 08-23-2005 05:50 PM
KaylBreinhar wrote:
In this ADDled culture anything that takes longer than 24 hours just ain't fun, right?
If we could encourage this mindset, we might get rid of some of those fscking Jedi.
Guy's don't get sucked into the OP's banality. Let's make things simple here, this post is nothing but a troll disguised as a grievance.
To the OP:
Ok so you think 1 shot PVP sucks huh? Well how about instead of flaming the established (non noob) pilot community and saying the PVP they love sucks, you start a post that addresses PROBLEMS with current PVP and gives SOLUTIONS. oh wow, alien idea right?
Right. Instead you decide to just waltz over to the forums and say "this sucks!". Let me ask you this, you want PVP to last longer, why not instead ask the community what you can do to make your larger ship harder to hit? Why not ask what the community thinks about strengthening heavy fighters in PVP? Do you have any comment whatsoever on the FACT that lengthening PVP in any way would contribute to good pilots being forced to fight even longer than they currently do? I haven't seen anything from you in response to the pilots saying they have fought 30 minute battles in space, which completely flies in the faceof the complaints raised inyour original troll post.
KaylBreinhar wrote:
As others have said, ANY change to Space PvP as it is now would result in the complete and utter devaluation of it whatsoever. Somehow I'm getting the vibe that'd please the OP here to no end.
What I read here is yet another player who merely wants to use Deep Space as a risk-free looting/farming ground. Duties and other safer static spawns exist for that. Just be thankful you bought it in Deep Space and not Kessel. I'm betting you weren't around for the PvP there - judging by your post history mostly residing in ANOTHER specific profession forum oft chided for their desire for ever-simplification, I'm not surprised.
As Rapax said, it can sometimes take 5+ minutes to land ONE shot. I spent MONTHS setting up a configuration that can take a hit from a well-REed WO3ed L8 reward blaster and still remain flight-and-fightworthy. I succeeded.
But hey, if it takes TIME, it MUST suck, right? In this ADDled culture anything that takes longer than 24 hours just ain't fun, right?Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 08-23-2005 05:50 PM
I wasnt complaining it took time, i was complaining it didnt take time, 1 shot and its over. Also stereotyping someone because they happen to be a jedi is rather foolish and pathetic.
I was around for pvp in kessel where yes u were overt while running the vette mission, and some person comes past 1 shot kills you and your mission is ruined. They later did add in a dmg modifier and then remove pvp completly from there but weapons have no surpassed that level and 1 shot kills are again almost certain.
What im saying is if people werent so worried about getting 1 shot killed they might not fly around trying to just avoid shots then get the odd shot off.
I was simply asking for opinions i dont find it challenging to 1 shot kill people, ok jsf vs jsf just results in whoever mucks up first giving the other a shot.
I mean look at the multi person ships there a joke.
I by no means wanted to devalue ur beloved space pvp. I asked for opinions, not an attack on me it shows the immaturity of yourself that you have to resort to such methods.
Perhaps it is you who like things to be simplified, and be able to 1 shot kill things to boost ur already large ego ?
Next time be civil.
Oh hell, I can't say too much here. I came back after a 7 month break and walked headlong into the world of JSF combat in a VERY outmoded X-Wing. Learned hard and fast that the old rules were looooong gone and sounded a lot like the OP for a few weeks.
Interestingly, once I dislodged my head from my ass, it took less than two months to get a fighter capable of competing together. Now I'm up to two PvP capable ships and considering a third.
JanuHull wrote:Oh hell, I can't say too much here. I came back after a 7 month break and walked headlong into the world of JSF combat in a VERY outmoded X-Wing. Learned hard and fast that the old rules were looooong gone and sounded a lot like the OP for a few weeks.
Interestingly, once I dislodged my head from my ass, it took less than two months to get a fighter capable of competing together. Now I'm up to two PvP capable ships and considering a third.
Again u are assuming im complaining cause i die. I kill and i die what im saying is i dont think its the most challenging thing to 1 shot kill someone.
quadpers0n wrote:
Guy's don't get sucked into the OP's banality. Let's make things simple here, this post is nothing but a troll disguised as a grievance.
To the OP:
Ok so you think 1 shot PVP sucks huh? Well how about instead of flaming the established (non noob) pilot community and saying the PVP they love sucks, you start a post that addresses PROBLEMS with current PVP and gives SOLUTIONS. oh wow, alien idea right?
Right. Instead you decide to just waltz over to the forums and say "this sucks!". Let me ask you this, you want PVP to last longer, why not instead ask the community what you can do to make your larger ship harder to hit? Why not ask what the community thinks about strengthening heavy fighters in PVP? Do you have any comment whatsoever on the FACT that lengthening PVP in any way would contribute to good pilots being forced to fight even longer than they currently do? I haven't seen anything from you in response to the pilots saying they have fought 30 minute battles in space, which completely flies in the faceof the complaints raised inyour original troll post.
You want help? Ask for it. You want to discuss problems? Post the problems and offer solutions. From now on these "whaaaa space pvp sucks!" threads are just going to get reported as trolling. I encourage the rest of the pilot community to do the same, let's face it, you aren't going to educate posters like these, if they wanted to be informed they would have done the 2 minutes of research necessary to become so.
QFE
never postwithout thinking it throughunless it'll be funny you'll generally get flamed
quadpers0n wrote:
Guy's don't get sucked into the OP's banality. Let's make things simple here, this post is nothing but a troll disguised as a grievance.
To the OP:
Ok so you think 1 shot PVP sucks huh? Well how about instead of flaming the established (non noob) pilot community and saying the PVP they love sucks, you start a post that addresses PROBLEMS with current PVP and gives SOLUTIONS. oh wow, alien idea right?
Right. Instead you decide to just waltz over to the forums and say "this sucks!". Let me ask you this, you want PVP to last longer, why not instead ask the community what you can do to make your larger ship harder to hit? Why not ask what the community thinks about strengthening heavy fighters in PVP? Do you have any comment whatsoever on the FACT that lengthening PVP in any way would contribute to good pilots being forced to fight even longer than they currently do? I haven't seen anything from you in response to the pilots saying they have fought 30 minute battles in space, which completely flies in the face of the complaints raised in your original troll post.
You want help? Ask for it. You want to discuss problems? Post the problems and offer solutions. From now on these "whaaaa space pvp sucks!" threads are just going to get reported as trolling. I encourage the rest of the pilot community to do the same, let's face it, you aren't going to educate posters like these, if they wanted to be informed they would have done the 2 minutes of research necessary to become so.
OMG Read the fecking post i asked for people opinions on the matter.
I wasnt flaming it ffs i just said i did not find it challenging to 1 shot kill something. In a previous post i have stated that perhaps if people werent so concerned about being completly crippled by 1 shot, they might spend less time constantly trying to avoid getting in sight and only taking an odd shot.
It is you doing the flaming sir not eye and i suggest you grow up and perhaps contribute with a different attitude.
LucifersBane wrote:
KaylBreinhar wrote:
As others have said, ANY change to Space PvP as it is now would result in the complete and utter devaluation of it whatsoever. Somehow I'm getting the vibe that'd please the OP here to no end.
What I read here is yet another player who merely wants to use Deep Space as a risk-free looting/farming ground. Duties and other safer static spawns exist for that. Just be thankful you bought it in Deep Space and not Kessel. I'm betting you weren't around for the PvP there - judging by your post history mostly residing in ANOTHER specific profession forum oft chided for their desire for ever-simplification, I'm not surprised.
As Rapax said, it can sometimes take 5+ minutes to land ONE shot. I spent MONTHS setting up a configuration that can take a hit from a well-REed WO3ed L8 reward blaster and still remain flight-and-fightworthy. I succeeded.
But hey, if it takes TIME, it MUST suck, right? In this ADDled culture anything that takes longer than 24 hours just ain't fun, right?Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 08-23-2005 05:50 PM
I wasnt complaining it took time, i was complaining it didnt take time, 1 shot and its over. Also stereotyping someone because they happen to be a jedi is rather foolish and pathetic.
I was around for pvp in kessel where yes u were overt while running the vette mission, and some person comes past 1 shot kills you and your mission is ruined. They later did add in a dmg modifier and then remove pvp completly from there but weapons have no surpassed that level and 1 shot kills are again almost certain.
What im saying is if people werent so worried about getting 1 shot killed they might not fly around trying to just avoid shots then get the odd shot off.
I was simply asking for opinions i dont find it challenging to 1 shot kill people, ok jsf vs jsf just results in whoever mucks up first giving the other a shot.
I mean look at the multi person ships there a joke.
I by no means wanted to devalue ur beloved space pvp. I asked for opinions, not an attack on me it shows the immaturity of yourself that you have to resort to such methods.
Perhaps it is you who like things to be simplified, and be able to 1 shot kill things to boost ur already large ego ?
Next time be civil.
no, you weren't looking for opinions. you posted that it was "more pointless than ground pvp" as your topic. your original post was nothing but a flame and a whine. furthermore, as evidenced in other posts, you have ZERO idea how things work in space PVP.
so let's lay off the victim act. the fact of the matter is you don't have any solutions, you don't have any idea what space PVP is really like, and you are complaining about a small subset of JTL ships going down fast, piloted by a small subset of pilots who are either unaware or uninformed.
you want to get opinions? why not ask what can be done to make oblivious and ingorant pilots not die so quick without ruining PVP for experienced pilots? you haven't even thought of posing that question have you? maybe if you phrased things in a way that weren't inflamatory, incorrect, and whining, you'd get nicer responses.
LucifersBane wrote:
quadpers0n wrote:
Guy's don't get sucked into the OP's banality. Let's make things simple here, this post is nothing but a troll disguised as a grievance.
To the OP:
Ok so you think 1 shot PVP sucks huh? Well how about instead of flaming the established (non noob) pilot community and saying the PVP they love sucks, you start a post that addresses PROBLEMS with current PVP and gives SOLUTIONS. oh wow, alien idea right?
Right. Instead you decide to just waltz over to the forums and say "this sucks!". Let me ask you this, you want PVP to last longer, why not instead ask the community what you can do to make your larger ship harder to hit? Why not ask what the community thinks about strengthening heavy fighters in PVP? Do you have any comment whatsoever on the FACT that lengthening PVP in any way would contribute to good pilots being forced to fight even longer than they currently do? I haven't seen anything from you in response to the pilots saying they have fought 30 minute battles in space, which completely flies in the face of the complaints raised in your original troll post.
You want help? Ask for it. You want to discuss problems? Post the problems and offer solutions. From now on these "whaaaa space pvp sucks!" threads are just going to get reported as trolling. I encourage the rest of the pilot community to do the same, let's face it, you aren't going to educate posters like these, if they wanted to be informed they would have done the 2 minutes of research necessary to become so.
OMG Read the fecking post i asked for people opinions on the matter.
I wasnt flaming it ffs i just said i did not find it challenging to 1 shot kill something. In a previous post i have stated that perhaps if people werent so concerned about being completly crippled by 1 shot, they might spend less time constantly trying to avoid getting in sight and only taking an odd shot.
It is you doing the flaming sir not eye and i suggest you grow up and perhaps contribute with a different attitude.