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JoKen Jash
Commando to the end!

SWG in a nutshell:
JoKen Jash flips a coin.
RandomJedi: OMG!!!! IT'S AN I WIN BUTTON!!!! NERF IT!!!!!!

"It's the End of the World as we Know it, and I feel fine..."

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P.S. Bruce Lee would PWN Chuck Norris

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Ooola wrote:

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CuchulainnDarklight wrote:

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Ooola wrote:

I have. You want me to start quoting them? No you take up to much space already by quoting things you dont need to!

huh? Exactly!

No, you posted 40+ times asking for something to be nerfed and nobody in red seems to agree with you, yet you keep trying. I havent posted that i want ANYTHING nerfed in the 500 posts i have made

I don't want your posts to be removed.youve been sayingyou want them removed the past couple of days over and over again, I informed the mods of this and they acted accordingly.I don't want the thread locked becuase I don't like what you are saying.Yes you do, you have said it enough in posts now deleted.You don't agree with me.Damn right I dont.I don't agree with you. Cant say this really bothers me! We (this thread)You (are not this thread, quite the opposite) are at an impass no we are not and there is no actual discussion happening here Yes there is.

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You are not going to convince me that every new piece of content needs to be balanced against your inventory/datapd and I'm not going to convince you that new content may or may not balance with what was developed 2+ years ago. ALL CONTENT currently available in the game has to be balanced or the game doesnt work!

What exactly are you looking for here because it isn't a discussion? Only your posts arent part of the discussion here - probably why they keep getting removed (among other reasons)

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...has mastered the Pilot profession
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Use the test centre avatar if you have any issues with the NGE or SOE, like me!

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KyrYxus wrote:
so wait... just so I understand, you (the "not 'nerf' it 'balance' it" crowd) feel that there should never be a ship introduced that is better than what is currently out there?

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No ship should be "better" than another.

They all should have their weaknesses and strengths - thats what balance is (just look at the ship comparisons of the original ships - thats the best balance ever introduced by SOE into SWG, not perfect by any means but pretty damned good). If you have a ship that is strong in every area and weak in none everyone will use it.

If this ship is quest based noone uses shippys for chassis anymore so they get dumped on, and the space game gets broring fast so no one bothers with it after a while - thats why balance is so important. Unless you just want a quick month of fun and will give up when ever the gameplay is totally ruined of course.

...has mastered the Pilot profession
The above post does not represent the views or beliefs of the poster, his countrymen or government, or anyone he remotely knows or has heard of, though in a perfect world he would be the government and his word law. The above post is also wholly fictitious, and any resemblance to any persons or entities living or dead is purely coincidental. Unless, it sounds really cool, in which case its all true, really.
Use the test centre avatar if you have any issues with the NGE or SOE, like me!

The Jedi Fighter is terrible for Corvette runs but great for PVP, the Krayt is great for vette runs but terrible for PVP. Therefore the Jedi Fighter is not strong in every area.

Not everyone can get a Jedi Fighter, which I do believe was a major reason this thread was started, unless they leave their faction (unless, obviously, they are imperial to begin with).

I've been around (JTL) since the first stages of beta, haven't trolled the JTL / pilot boards in some months, and this is the EXACT same debate that raged from launch regarding the A-Wing and the fact that neither the Imps nor the Freelancers had a ship that was truly equal to it for PVP.

The only REAL problem with the Actis is that it is only a reward and it bypasses the SW's.

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CuchulainnDarklight wrote:

something about being right and Ooola being wrong.

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Sorry but all the colors were giving me a headache.

You don't want the JSF nerfed? Am I missing something here? This thread starts with the words "Urgently needs to be nerfed"

Followed by YOU saying, "Are there really pilots this stupid?"

Followed by YOU saying, "there is no effective rebel, imperial or freelancer countermeasure against the JSF except the JSF!" *cough* Grievous *cough*

Followed by YOU saying, "the JSF therefore it is unbalanced. Therefore the game is unbalanced. Therefore the game is broken. Therefore fix it!" DECODED, "Please nerf the JSF".

Followed by YOU saying, "I really dont like the idea that if I have superior skill to another pilot he wins 90% of the time because he has a quest reward unavailable to me and iI have no countermeasure in my factions armoury" *cough* Grievous *cough* DECODED, "Please nerf the JSF".

Followed by YOU saying, "I am secure in the knowledge my skills are up to the task of taking on any enemy in any enemy ship whilst I am in any ship, unless of course my enemy flies a JSF, of course! Besides which everyone wants ME to be THEIR wingman. "

Followed by YOU saying (Reply #70)"lets just remove the JSF completely!"

And that's you just getting warmed up. There are 4 more pages of this...

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P.S. Bruce Lee would PWN Chuck Norris

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Ooola wrote:

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CuchulainnDarklight wrote:

something about being right and Ooola being wrong.

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I did not say this - stop your trolling and flaming, you are in violation of the forum rules AGAIN!

...has mastered the Pilot profession
The above post does not represent the views or beliefs of the poster, his countrymen or government, or anyone he remotely knows or has heard of, though in a perfect world he would be the government and his word law. The above post is also wholly fictitious, and any resemblance to any persons or entities living or dead is purely coincidental. Unless, it sounds really cool, in which case its all true, really.
Use the test centre avatar if you have any issues with the NGE or SOE, like me!

The only REAL problem with the Actis is that it is only a reward and it bypasses the SW's.

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I agree with that. For two reasons. 1, because, as you mentioned, its bad for SW to have the most desired ships not be buildable by them, and 2, that I can't get a new one if my old one gets too badly decayed.

I think its good that there is a quest, and that you can't fly the ship unless you DO the quest, but I think that SW should get quests too for schematics for all these new ships. Not everyone will be able to fly them, because you still need to do the quest to get flagged to fly it. So they wouldn't be any more common than they are now, but it would mean some business for SW down the road when peoples quest rewards get too decayed.

I was paraphrasing... Funny. No reply about your other quotes though huh?

What exactly is it you're looking for?

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P.S. Bruce Lee would PWN Chuck Norris

further it would help the economy for them to be craftable by removing another very high cost item should you need to replace it.

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Ooola wrote:

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CuchulainnDarklight wrote:

something about being right and Ooola being wrong. I did not say this.

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Sorry but all the colors were giving me a headache.

You don't want the JSF nerfed? Am I missing something here? This thread starts with the words "Urgently needs to be nerfed" That was the guy who started the thread not us posting in it

Followed by YOU saying, "Are there really pilots this stupid?" Ok so that wasnt very nice, I apologisebut, I was talking about pilots who didnt know that the Awing is less manouverable and carries less firepower than some Imps hips and the Imps have 3 ships that trump it - all they have to do is look at the stickies at the top of the forum for this information

Followed by YOU saying, "there is no effective rebel, imperial or freelancer countermeasure against the JSF except the JSF!" *cough* Grievous *cough* The Greivous quest and ship are bugged currently and need a whole group of heavy templates to complete - the JSF requires you a CL1 and a friend to help thats it. Also introducing a couple of other identically unbalanced ships does not magiaclly balance the game - the same unbalance exists!

Followed by YOU saying, "the JSF therefore it is unbalanced. Therefore the game is unbalanced. Therefore the game is broken. Therefore fix it!" DECODED, "Please nerf the JSF". Nope this wasnt encoded - it means what it says - if the game is broken fix it - in this case by balancing it - why is it so bad to want a balanced game fun for everyone?

Followed by YOU saying, "I really dont like the idea that if I have superior skill to another pilot he wins 90% of the time because he has a quest reward unavailable to me and iI have no countermeasure in my factions armoury" *cough* Grievous *cough* DECODED, "Please nerf the JSF". For greivous bit see above and once again it wasnt encoded. On the ground they removed the uber loot weapons that ruined PvP in the CU, why then introduce them in space?

Followed by YOU saying, "I am secure in the knowledge my skills are up to the task of taking on any enemy in any enemy ship whilst I am in any ship, unless of course my enemy flies a JSF, of course! Besides which everyone wants ME to be THEIR wingman. "

DECODED, "Please nerf the JSF". Once again - dont nerf anything - balance them in whatever way is easiest and quickest to do, please devs

Followed by YOU saying (Reply #70)"lets just remove the JSF completely!" That was sarcastic humour, im sorry if you did not get it, but to clarify i like the JSF an think its a cool addition to ships but at the very least it needs to be balanced within the game system and preferably as well made craftable (with lesser stats) by shippys

And that's you just getting warmed up. There are 4 more pages of this... You keep coming in misrepresenting what i say so i have to keep explaining myself - hopefully this clears it all up!

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all the bits in dark red up above

...has mastered the Pilot profession
The above post does not represent the views or beliefs of the poster, his countrymen or government, or anyone he remotely knows or has heard of, though in a perfect world he would be the government and his word law. The above post is also wholly fictitious, and any resemblance to any persons or entities living or dead is purely coincidental. Unless, it sounds really cool, in which case its all true, really.
Use the test centre avatar if you have any issues with the NGE or SOE, like me!