Pilot Archive
Thread: JTL Ship Balance Discussion
CuchulainnDarklight wrote:
PaceNebulon wrote:
I am so tired of these "discusions". Yes, the ROTW ship are powerful, but the balace between JTL ships and ROTW ships doesn't matter. what matters is the balace between the professions. I thought it was painfully obvious, what SOE is doing with these ships. The ROTW ships are more powerful therefore everyone wants them but to get them you have to buy the expansion. This means that they can ensure that more people will buy the expansion. (BTW for those of you that get some kind of elitist kick out of not using any of these ships but still have ROTW... you have alredy fallen into SOE's trap so quit being a whiner and enjoy the new ships).
that being said, if you think they are going to even consider changing the new ships, you were not around during the CU. If they won't listen to large groups of people protesting (in game) then you have overinflated ego that is just taking up space on the forums.
Hmm, tbh the ROTW ships are the JTL equivalent of ubertemplate/comp armour/stun damage, that existed on the ground and prompted the CU, therefore it would be better to deal with them now than let the problem escalate. Plus, you dont have to put BETTER loot, into an expansion to get people to buy it, just NEW loot.Besides NONE of the ground loot is better than stuff already existing, for example the proton carbine looks cool but if it was loot like the JSF/BSF it would allow you to oneshot kill people from 1000m away, just as the clone armour would allow you to permanently burst run, double your health, inventory, and damge output!
90% composite and stun damage was't the primary reason that pre-cu pvp was imbalanced. everyone had access to comp armor, stun damage was easily countered by adding stun layers to the armor. what was unbalanced was that certain profs had high damage, heavy armor piercing weapons firing at the speedcap dealing mind damage while others only had access to low damage light armor piercing weapons that targeted health or action, damage that was easily regenerated by 3k secondary buffs. the professions were the major imbalance, the gear was secondary. another reason for the CU was that PVE was trivialy easy, that's where the comp armor and buffs made the biggest difference, allowing players to afk solo the hardest mobs in the game.
Attacca wrote:
I feel no such desire.
Sure you do, you just don't realize it.
No, I definately don't.
Ducimus wrote:
Attacca wrote:
I feel no such desire.
If I did, I would stop posting. And quoting.
Sure you do, you just don't realize it.
Parts in red are mine.
1: so this is what happened to the commando proffesion
two okay the last thing we need is another nerf i mean any1 can get a grevious eta-2 or heavy-x so it isnt unbalanced leave the game alone until flamethrowers outdamage pistols
people like you are what makes it so every1 is either a bounty hunter or a Doc 4000 tkm/mpikeman
please dont ruin the game
Attacca wrote:No, I definately don't.
Ducimus wrote:
Attacca wrote:
I feel no such desire.
Sure you do, you just don't realize it.
Parts in red are mine.
Uh huh, and your last post has *JUST* proven my point.
Of course the catch 22 is my pointing that out with this post of mine right here.
Of course now you HAVE to stop posting cause i put your back against a wall and any further response will make me more correct.
So i got the last word in! neener neener neener!
Have you ever even been to Deep Space? Sheesh. Bet you're a jedi too.
Ducimus wrote:
Attacca wrote:
No, I definately don't.
Ducimus wrote:
Attacca wrote:
I feel no such desire.
If I did, I would stop posting. And quoting.
Sure you do, you just don't realize it.
Parts in red are mine.
Uh huh, and your last post has *JUST* proven my point.
Here I have to rely on the famous, "Just because you say it, doesn't make it true."
Of course the catch 22 is my pointing that out with this post of mine right here.
Of course now you HAVE to stop postingcausebecauseiI put your back against a wall and any further response will make me more correct.
This is a forum about space. There are no walls, how can you be so dumb?
So i got the last word in! neener neener neener!
negilum wrote::
90% composite and stun damage was't the primary reason that pre-cu pvp was imbalanced. everyone had access to comp armor, stun damage was easily countered by adding stun layers to the armor. what was unbalanced was that certain profs had high damage, heavy armor piercing weapons firing at the speedcap dealing mind damage while others only had access to low damage light armor piercing weapons that targeted health or action, damage that was easily regenerated by 3k secondary buffs. the professions were the major imbalance, the gear was secondary. another reason for the CU was that PVE was trivialy easy, that's where the comp armor and buffs made the biggest difference, allowing players to afk solo the hardest mobs in the game.
To qualify: what i mean is - the majority of people fly a JSF or BSF not because its new and cool, but because its superior and/or they need it to compete with others in superior ships.
Message Edited by CuchulainnDarklight on 07-21-2005 06:28 PM
Ducimus wrote:
keep playing ping pong by all means
I have never seen someone who is so convinced that their opinion represents *the One Truth* about something. Haha.
::rolleyes:: Pretty funny.
Last word!
LeaphChausew wrote:
Alarien wrote:
I have never seen someone who is so convinced that their opinion represents *the One Truth* about something. Haha.
::rolleyes:: Pretty funny.
Last word!
Actually, everything I say is pure gospel and is the 'one true way' because well..I felt like saying that
The funny thing is..watching people regardless of whether they're right or wrong or even a mixture of the both continue to slug it out. Its pointless because all participants are as arrogant and as stubborn as each other [I'm not saying they're bad qualities but...]
Also as for threads having 'the last word' etc...well thats not the point. Forums are supposed to have posts added to them and debate is encouraged..it's just some people need to know how to move on from a topic and possibly swallow some pride at times. Alarien...you really seem like a decent contributer, but I think for your own sake you need to swallow some of your pride.
As for me..well, I've just opened myself up for a whole lot of abuse and flaming there, but the fact I don't really give a damn about what a single one of you thinks about me kinda nulls that aspect. This forum isn't about personal wars of words in order to boost your own self esteem..it's about improving a game. Everyone's oppinions are valid no matter what they are.
-Leaph
I think hes talking about me mate - but Ive moved on to flaming the jedi tbh!