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Thread: Pilot Bugs/Issues

AzzraelTheRed
Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:17 pm
#131

Do you mean destroy them before they hyper back out? Because I did that with maybe one escaping (but destroying 4 other waves)


If you mean destory each wave before the next appears, then that sounds impossible, because i usually have only 2, maybe three of the first wave destroyed before the next shows, and thats with the best gun and capacitor I can find.



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Treena_Daal
Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:21 pm
#132

I mean before the next wave appears. And it's not impossible, just hard. I recomend bringing friends with you.
AzzraelTheRed
Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:14 pm
#133

Thats pretty bad. The mission description only said to destroy the waves, nothing about doing it before the next one comes. So aside from being unrealistic the mission is misleading too.


Its one thing to make it difficult to solo, to make it near impossible, as it impossible to solo that fast, is very poor game design, which I am working to a qualification in.


Investing this much time for nothing is very frustrating, and makes it harder to enjoy the other aspects of the game. Plus investing this much time in a character puts me off just switching to another.



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HewerofWood
Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:53 pm
#134

I don't think there is Anything in Pilot that is impossible to solo. I've soloed every Mission in Two branches of Neut, and One of Rebel, including my Vet, and two Heavy vets (two Pilots). Though I haven't done Any Imp missions at all, I would venture that there are a great many who have soloed this very mission you speak of, hard as it is to see through the frustrationof the moment, It will be possible for you, with enough time under your wings, and, possibly, better equipment in your vessel.


One obvious question is... are you using WO3, EO3? Cap-to-Shield Shunt? What engine do you have, and, at tier 3, are you using the best RE'd lvl 7 weapons possible? and what of your shield? it is Very possible to be using a 1600/1600 shield, depending on your mass limitations. Is your craft manueverable, or, Heavy and ponderous?


If this were an escort mission, by way of example, you could expect to Kill a wave of 3-4 Tier 4's with a fully decked out Tier 3 ship, using justfour droid commands (WO3,EO3, CO3 and CSS3-4)Before any of your opponents ever get to the escorted vessel. Disable, and Boosters are key, as are good, solid, flying techniques.


It is possible to do things you've never considered before.





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Treena_Daal
Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:55 pm
#135

I will admit that if there is anything that even comes close to "impossible to solo" during the grind to Master pilot, that Storm Squadron mission is it. That thing really is a bear.
AzzraelTheRed
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:31 am
#136

My weapon is lvl 7 doing up to 2200 damage, its the best I can find, like my capacitor. I dont overload the weapon since it would empty the capacitor too fast.


My engine gets my interceptor to about 820 speed when i overload it, and its maneuvering stats are all over 60. Basically Im as fast and agile as most of the A-wings.


I dont even worry about my shields, tier 3s wont hurt me in the numbers they come in on this mission.


My ship is as good as its likely to get without some serious searching, which I dont think would give much improvement for the cost. A-Wings are just too small to kill that fast, and matching B-wings speed hurts my manuevering so bad its hard to keep a bead.


And Im on Scylla, with only one imperial pilot helper, and I am unguilded right now. And as I say, I dont want to play this mission anymore, having done it for nothing so many times. Not even the XP is any good, as Im going against tier 3 when I can o tier 4 enemies for a better xp rate, and wont even get to buy skills with xp again until tier 4.


I can only comfort myself that I wouldnt do something so amateurish when Im designing games.



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HewerofWood
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:43 am
#137

I might actually try this I'm almost done with Privateer (just grinding Imp faction to do my JSF quest). I was going to do my Ace Mission, then switch back to Rebel after programming a whole lot of chips, but... Painful as it is to contemplate the dark side, Storm Squadran sounds too good to pass up.



As to the weapons, cap and engine issue. Your Engine is underpowered. You can use a level 6 RE, and, base stats should be hitting for more than you are getting. 82 Speed without Overloading should be base, and your PYR can be hitting 70.My lvl 6 Engine, when overloaded, gets me to 1014 in my Bel. The PYR is 1.2. That's a decent lvl 6 RE, but, it's not the best out there.


You shouldn't have any trouble finding a very good RE lvl 2 or 4 Capacitor that will give you a min of 42+ Recharge and between1,000 and 1,500 energy pool, with a Very low drain (1 K or lower I think -- I really haven't worried about drain in sometime. I use a low mass 14K Reactor in my little ships, and a 16K crafted in my larger, and only need to overcharge it on one loadout). If you use Capacitor Overload 3, you won't have any trouble at all. My Cap on my bel is something like 87 Recharge and 2500 Pool After it's been overcharged.


Currently Weapon Overload 3 does Not increase the draw on your capacitor.


Your Weapon is low on the max damage, by maybe an average of 500. Most of my RE'd 7's come in around 2700, with 2800 and change being about the top of what I've mixed. The fastest refire I've gotten so far has been .310, the lowest mass has been 9K and change, with effectiveness all over .65. I have not been as diligent as some, in assembling my weapons, but they are decent, especially when overloaded.



I'm not crazy about A - Wings, and I know what you mean about targetting them. I find I often need to lead them more than I lead any other ship, though, they might be much like hitting interceptors, which means, it just takes time to get to know their patterns. I find Disable to be my greatest tool when tackling them, rather than chewing on them until they are destroyed. I'm also an Opportunist, as the various, wonderful posts on Flying techniques Drum on about. If I'm tailing an A-Wing (or an interceptor), and just not getting it, and a better target pops it's head up, I'm on that, quick as can be.


It would seem like a better engine could help a great deal with these slower craft. I love the Bomber classes, they are generally amoung my very first targets, as they can barely get out of their own way and, if left to their own devices, while you are whizzing after the A - Wings, in loop after loop, they'll harry you with missil after missil. Taking them out also reduces potential distractions. Disable is your best friend. And, I would say, that, unlike in Ground, No time spent is wasted. None. The whole point of these missions is to make you a better pilot. Actually succeeding and moving on is almost irrelevant, in my mind. Overcoming the challenge is everything. It sounds like this challenge is perfect for you. You're Faced with frustration, forced to measure yourself, ask questions, look at your components and analysize your flying. What could be better?


There are an Aweful lot of pilots who get this all handed to them, and never come anywhere Neartolearning what you have. You are face - to - face with your own limitations. You can;


  • Quit

  • Have an Ace Disable everything for you, quick as can be

Or you can;



  • Optimize your equipment

  • Install more Droid Commands

  • Hone your A-Wing and B-Wing techniques

And, try again. Knowing that, it may take yet more failures.


I'd say it's up to you. If this challenge is to great, at this time in your career. I'd say move on, rather than quit altogether, but, you have that choice as well.




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Treena_Daal
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:57 am
#138

When I ran into that mission, I quit. Brought three people out there with me, and we still couldn't get it done. So I said "Sod this", and went to Inquisition. I finished up CorSec last night on my alt, thus having one badge from all three factions. With the full XP bonus secured, I'm going back to hand Storm Squadron its butt. I just finished Tier 1. I'll probably be back up to that mission in the next 24 hours. Then we'll see how those A-wings feel about me.
AzzraelTheRed
Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:01 am
#139

I dont see that components should be an issue. Mine should be good enough even if not perfect. Even if I can get a faster engine, im faster and more agile than the A-wings. Plus Im near capacity on mass, after my booster I dont know if I can spare anything for higher mass equipment.

I dont know what its like on your server, but RE parts are rare on Scylla aside from crafters who go to space themselves for parts, since everyone empties their holds on the chassis vendor.

Weapon Overload 3 not increasing capacitor is irrelivant. I would have it if I could train with all this xp I have, but the trainer wont until I have done this mission, and possibly balanced a buscuit on my nose. Dont have capacitor overload, im not sure thats an imperial skill.

I guess I will shop around, but at this point it doesnt seem worth investing to much of my time. If I wasnt so determined to enjoy this and get my moneys worth I would have uninstalled by now. Theres also that the unsubscribe feature of the launchpad is suspiciously hard to find.



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HewerofWood
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:59 pm
#140

I'm standing down on any aspect other than the Droid Commands, that seems to be an area that most young pilots have difficulty with, There are some super posts on the Commands, though, I don't have any links off the top of my head, I'd be surprised if the sticky didn't contain a good link.



You are eligible to use Any Droid Command from Any Faction, regardless of level. The only requirements are purely "Physical";



  • You must have the neccessary room within your Droid

  • For any command your own faction And level do not grant you, you will need a "Chip" programmed with said Command.

For example; As an imperial your Faction Tree grants you the Weapon Overload, and Engine Overload Commands (To name Two). While you might not be able to inherently program WO3, because you haven't trained it yet, you can either Buy a Chip programmed with it, or Have a Faction Mate Program one for you. The chips are produced by Novice Droid Engineers, and often sell for 6-10K for 5 chips on My server (Kauri). Any Pilot can program an UnProgramed chip.



When I was, grinding one of the Neut trees, with my Ship Wright, for his First Pilot, I usedTwo Commands from the get go; WO3, EO3, (well, from Tier I, not novice). After that I added commands as I had space for, but, those were the two I really cared about. After that I added Capacitor Overload x and Capacitor to Shield Shunt x, as I went up my tree.



If you are finding Storm Squadran to difficult to progress, do what Teare Did, jump to another Imp Squad. You've got someexperience under your belt, You know what hard is, and you've blunted your nose for it more than once. Circumvent your obstacle, and come back when you are ready. This part of the game is not the same as the ground. Soloing Is Possible But, it's not inatiely granted due to your template, only your own, Hard Won abilities. Excellent components, the right Droid Commands, and some idea of what is Possible can go along way to helping overcome a Lack of Space Legs. Just as, Hard Won abilities can go along way to making up for substandard equipment, and crappy Commands.





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HewerofWood
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:05 pm
#141

Oh, :/ I guess my reply says a bit about the availability of RE'd parts on my server... I have a Master Shipwright, and, you would be correct to say that Reverse Engineered Parts are scarce on the Bazaar, at least for prices under 99999999. Most Pilots I know save thier parts. I know of Two excellent Ship Wrights with impecable reputations that serve most of the needs of the community that I hang with (I'm not one of them! ). I do my own REing, and am needing more than the seven houses I currently have just to store my parts. If you read around this forum, you'll see that many, many, many other pilots do the same thing.


Save your parts, Sort them, Filter them, and farm, farm, farm for the ones that will give you the components you want. More than Excellent Posts on what Loot to Save, and what stats to shoot for on everything from reactors to Weapons.





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AzzraelTheRed
Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:53 am
#142

I dont want to start over, even with xp, and I certainly shouldnt have to.

The fact is, the only reason I cant do this is because the time window to kill a wave is much, much too short. Im lucky to have two dead before the next wave hits. That means I would need two other pilots willing to help, and I cant find that many on the server.

But I guess my problems arnt important, Im not a jedi afterall. Its a pity, I wanted to enjoy SWG, but it seems the devs dont want that.



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HewerofWood
Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:45 am
#143

Well I'm done.



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