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Thread: The FS Conversion Dead Horse

AnzelVincir
Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:59 pm
#118






Ducimus wrote:
No, what this "topic" (trolling) needs is to be locked.

All its doing is causing a source of animosity in this forum because of one person's indvidual wants, and serves as a trolls soapbox.

This thread is a demonstration of the fixated, obstinate brickwall singlemindness of a single individual with an ego, and attitude, and an agenda trolling for a response. Furthermore, even if said response was received, it would not be accepted under any terms under then what would be favoriable to what said troll wants. At which point the lobbying would continue, only under a different guise.


This thread, needs to sleep with the fishies.






Really? Cause there is almost an identical thread over in the FS forum and yes you guessed it. Complete opposite of this thread. So this one gets locked becuase like 4 people disagree with it? Nice. Real nice.


Like I said before. If I wanted endless /signs I would've posted in the FS forum like the other thread. What I think is needed is an answer.





AnzelZenalXenalXahnAgrippina
Ducimus
Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:05 pm
#119

Then why don't you go troll the FS forum and stop cross posting your self rightous dribble on two differnt forums on the same topic.. which if im not mistaken, is a big no no.



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AnzelVincir
Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:14 pm
#120






Ducimus wrote:
Then why don't you go troll the FS forum and stop cross posting your self rightous dribble on two differnt forums on the same topic.. which if im not mistaken, is a big no no.





Dude, you really need to tone it down a bit. The other thread isn't mine.




AnzelZenalXenalXahnAgrippina
psikobunny
Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:17 pm
#121

Hey Ducimus, it's your week to get called dude!



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AnzelVincir
Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:35 am
#122






DosWindo wrote:





AnzelVincir wrote:
So instead of trying to keep Jedi out of space which just wrong when it comes to Star Wars we should be trying to ADD an uber pilot class that would be just as difficult to achieve as Jedi but would have the upperhand in space






Anyone else here see whats just wrong with this? Nevermind jedi ruind the ground PvP scene, now he wants an "I win " button for space? Things are starting to add up here.


Indeed they are... That's what's funny about people shooting the "jedi hater" label around. Again, he's talking about "keeping Jedi out of space", which is major sleight of hand of the issue. Nobody is keeping Jedi out of space. They are keeping it from being relevant in a twitch based game, for the same reason that every other profession is irrelevant. BECAUSE it's a twitch based game.


Those same folk, theyaspire to be jedi in the game, buthave no real love for jedi, just a need to be Uber. This lays it out completely what's bothering him. He'dgive up the jedi powersin spaceargument(IE what FSXP would lead to), so long as there's something he can be that will give him an advantage over everyone else. Something other than "practice", that is...


These are the same guys that would be a chef if they had a one button kill skill, or a dancer if they could instantly stop 10players in their tracks. They don't care about what profession they really are. They don't care about jedi, or any of the real character concepts of the game or the universe that they play in. They just wanna be Uber. Ifa living mattress from Squornshelous Beta 5 could wipe out a legion of jedi they'd play one.

Truth of the matter is, if they truly "loved" jedi, they'd wonder why the dev's made being a jedi so"grindish" and so out of canon. And if they really wanted to "better the game", they'd wonder why the devs would do something so munchkinlike as to make them uber, throwing the game way off balance and making folk like me spend 80% of my time in space and the other 20% shopping.





AnzelVincir wrote:
If you don't like Jedi then playing a Star Wars game may not be the best choice...








Ahh, see, were back to jedi again. I seem to recall signing up for SWG - i dont seem to recall subscribing to KOTR online.


Ah, but what would be the fun in KOTR online? Everyone having the opportunity to be as powerful as you? What's the point of being jedi if everyone were on equal ground, right?




AnzelVincir wrote:
I strongly feel they should move the timeline like 500 years forward or 500 years backward or somewhere where Jedi would be more appropriate.




Seems to me this is his common theme.. wannabe jedi. What does jedi - a ground profession have to do with JTL again, someone refresh my memory. Oh ya thats right.. nothing.


Here's where obviously the needs of the "jedi" players seem to outweight the needs of any others in his eyes. Or,INSTEAD of uprooting the whole game as it was meant to be to fit their needs, he would suggest:


...rather than move the timeline of THIS game, have a different game, or a spinoff. Again, KOTOR online. But I honestly don't think many of the jedi in Galaxies would set foot in it, even if offered to have their character transfered there for reasons explained above. Me, I'd be there, Rodian with an orange saber in hand...





AnzelVincir wrote:
I truly am a player who is interested in the 'betterment of the game" and that is my only agenda.






Who's game is he trying to better i wonder? The one everyone plays, or just the little piece of it that HE wants to play? Things that make you go Hmmmmm.


I think, by using the term "betterment", he just let us in to the subliminals of his psyche. Betterment... "better-me-not in the game"; ie, I don't like the game unless nobody can beat me... ;P





AnzelVincir wrote:
I am more senior than you








I love the ego, don't you?


It certainly curbed my opinion of who is right and wrong...





AnzelVincir wrote:
I propose we start over.




I guess the agrument wasn't going his way, eh?


Translated: "Please forget everything I've said, and what you already know."





AnzelVincir wrote:
This thread will keep going until we get a definitive and final answer. If this thread gets locked as a result of childish behavior then I'll start another one under a different account. If that account gets ban I'll use a different account. etc. etc. etc.




Indeed. That is the very definition of trolling.


And as for that definitive and final answer, you'd bedishonest to yourself and to anyone else to say that if a dev came in here and said "no FSXP in JTL and that's that", that you'd close the case and end this thread. You won't, and you know it. Just admit it.

I would say everybody else knows that too, but that's speaking for other people, which is a good way to get flamed.


Message Edited by DosWindo on 04-26-2005 11:51 AM





Takingquotes out of context, putting words into my mouth/keyboard, and calling me names isn't going to change the fact that you have no argument. My original post stands. As of today I am 90 some percent finished with all my grinding and I have the same opinion as when JTL was first launched and had no intention of doing any FS.


I'd suggest you take a little peek over at the FS forums and see what they think. Those of you hiding in space despising players who are willing to make the commitment and have the patience to do something you can't make up a very small minority of this community.


Like I've said before. JTL is part of SWG and SWG is supposed to be Star Wars. Just look at the October newsletter and you'll see what I'm saying. It's so sad that the devs/SOE/LA is actually listening to a tiny portion of players and destroying the experience for everyone else...






AnzelZenalXenalXahnAgrippina
psikobunny
Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:38 am
#123






AnzelVincir wrote:


Takingquotes out of context, putting words into my mouth/keyboard, and calling me names isn't going to change the fact that you have no argument.


Well those are all things you're expert at, so I guess it takes one to know one huh?

Message Edited by psikobunny on 04-26-2005 03:39 PM



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