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Vegitaa

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:16 am

Wow, I decided to hit Smuggler Alliance as my third Ace. Why? Because I want to land at Jabba's Palace thats why! LOL! (Of course I also want to loot Rep[ublic Sienar components to RE for when I fly through Storm Squadron later)

Anyways... So, I'm thinking this is gonna be like Imperial and Mass is always an issue blah blah blah.... Then I deeded my first Dunelizard. HOLY FLYING UHUALS BATMAN!!! This sucker has 85k mass! Now listen up, I'm not complaining, or screaming NERF or anything.. just posting observations as a Pilot enthusist.

Nuetral shiups have a huge amount of mass at even the lowest tiers. This is a good thing for those of us taking it up as a second or third Ace but in my opinion a negative for the newbie. Why? Well let me explain...

Mass Management. I had to spend a lot of time collecting parts, getting them RE'ed and then stuffing them into ships that had less mass than some capacitors out there! Yeppers, TIE Intercepter is a TRier 3 Ship with 50k mass... Dunelizard is a Tier 1 ship with 85k mass. Now, again not a "Thats not fair!" statement but realize something. When I put togather my Dunelizard for the first time I had 60k mass left over. Meaning thats a lot of wasted space!

Due to the mass restrictions I believe that it is harder to master Imperial Pilot than any other of the pilot professions. Rebel comes in second, and nuetral is like riding with training wheels! I'm not calling nuetral pilots punks or anything but there are obvious differences.

So I've been having a blast with nuetral pilot so far, first 3 hours finished tier 2, should have ace by tonight. I'm not trying to diminish what Nuetral pilots went through to get their Ace but I will say this, Imps have it way harder in terms of mass management, due to that (my 2 previous Imp Ace badges) I'll be cruising through the Nuetral tiers faster than a Rihxyrk with a RE'ed Lvl 10 engine on boost!

/salute to all those Imp/Rebels I'm going to kill in DS now!

There is no peace, there is anger.
There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.

MonsofoLexius

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:20 am

#2

Ya I agree totally Veg. The down side to privateer is PvP, the ships are huge as compaired to the TIE's and the X-A wings. But I totally agree on the Imp part. The imperial professions can turn out the best pilots IMHO

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bmeenan

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:44 am

#3

Well, the ONE great thing that comes from the Free Lance profession is the Dunelizard. Most pilots seem to take it all the way to Ace. If changes were made, I'd like to see the Lizzy moved up a few boxes, because it really seems out of place at tier 1. Maybe up to tier 3 or so where the XWing is.

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Vegitaa

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:44 am

#4

So, lemme get this straight... Lets say I'm an Imperial Colonel Combatant on the ground. I decide to go Smugglers Alliance. Now I decide to fly to Dathomir, head to the Nuetral station, and go to Kessel.

Can I go overt for Rebel faction before hitting Kessel, and can I then kill Imperial Pilots?

If so this would totally rule as on Ahazi Deep Space is buzzing with Overt Imp's but Rebels are hard to find.

There is no peace, there is anger.
There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.

Vegitaa

Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:51 am

#5

bmeenan wrote:
Well, the ONE great thing that comes from the Free Lance profession is the Dunelizard. Most pilots seem to take it all the way to Ace. If changes were made, I'd like to see the Lizzy moved up a few boxes, because it really seems out of place at tier 1. Maybe up to tier 3 or so where the XWing is.

Y'know, I was thinking about that last night (as I was plowing my way throught the first 2 tiers...) I wouldn't change anything about Freelance right now. I kinda like that there's an advantage like that. Honestly, everyone tends to go Reb or Imp. Nice to see that the nuetrals get that kind of incentive to go out, buy a low level ship that will not have to be replaced for a longtime.

Think of it like this, I spent a few million to get myself through Imperial pilot all in all. But for Nuetral so far... I think I've spent less than 30k to get through tier 2. Also, that means that Nuetrals can be viable in every situation (except DS) at a very low tier, actually about halfway through.

Some people are not power gamers (believe it or not!) and don't have the time or desire to master pilot, or maybe they're just taking their time. At least this way they can still enjoy space (85k mass, engine overload 3, weapon overload 3, and capacitor overload 3 = bad-ass for tier 2) but they still have incentive to master (YT-1300 for Ace's only)

Honestly, I may just do all three nuetral pilot prof's because they're pretty fun ships. Imagine a Scyk (which has more mass than a TIE Intercepter) kicking butt all over deep space with a 92,2 top speed fully re'ed engine. Just 2 days ago I was kicking butt in my Intercepter in DS, now imagine giving someone like me an additional 20k mass.. lol!

Watch out Imp's/Reb's! Something WICKED this way comes!

editted for piss poor spelling....

Message Edited by Vegitaa on 03-21-2005 09:52 AM

There is no peace, there is anger.
There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.

Votik

Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:01 am

#6

The mass advantage definitely goes to neutrals. My second character is definitely going to be a neutral pilot. Not to mention the Krayt is one of the best ships in the game. Many put down their firespray for the krayt.

Vegitaa

Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:08 am

#7

Votik wrote:
The mass advantage definitely goes to neutrals. My second character is definitely going to be a neutral pilot. Not to mention the Krayt is one of the best ships in the game. Many put down their firespray for the krayt.

Wow, not sure I can put my FireSpray down but I haven't made it to my Krayt yet either, sounds promising for sure! I figure I'll be keeping the FireSpray, YT-1300, and Krayt in my datapad though. At least until I've finished all three nuetrals and head to my final Imp prof of Strom Squadron.

2 down.. 4 to go!

There is no peace, there is anger.
There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.

bmeenan

Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:14 am

#8

The nicest part I found about the Dunelizard, like you say, was that I had it for the longest time. I can power game at times, but I really took my time to make ace. (I usually only flew a little at the end of each night to cool down from a daunting grind on the ground).

With the Dunelizard, your ship gets more personality as you tweak it a little here and there, adding the good looted components you find. The hard part I've found is that once I aced, something seemed to be missing from all the master ships, because nothing at Free Lance master offers the same feel as the Lizzy. Honestly? I'm sorta thinking of redeeding my YT and trying to deck out a Kihraxz or Scyk as an a-wing type free lance solution.

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Captain of the Abydos Sky
Chilastra Galaxy

MonsofoLexius

Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:44 am

#9

Vegitaa wrote:

So, lemme get this straight... Lets say I'm an Imperial Colonel Combatant on the ground. I decide to go Smugglers Alliance. Now I decide to fly to Dathomir, head to the Nuetral station, and go to Kessel.

Can I go overt for Rebel faction before hitting Kessel, and can I then kill Imperial Pilots?

If so this would totally rule as on Ahazi Deep Space is buzzing with Overt Imp's but Rebels are hard to find.

for Kessel yes I think so. But you would need to hit the rebel stations in Dant space for that (both overt and to travel to kessel). AFAIK you will NOT be able to hit deep space as a ground Imp as a space rebel. The Privateer station checks to see what your ground faction is before it gives you options. Might hold true for Kessel too, have never tried to "cross-factions" as I have a pilot in each..

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- In rememberance of our friend, Luckky Johnson (Toni Sinclair)
"Every day I feel like I am opening a present when
I double-click the SWG icon"-Vorpaks
Thanks bud...now, about the Garment habit of yours. You need an intervention! - Calculus_Entropy /flex - n'Jessi
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Votiva

Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:50 am

#10

I know exactly how the op feels on this. I was an Imp ace myself and got bored so I picked up CorSec. Downgrading from my old Advanced to the Scyk was a little painful but the second I got my first Dune I almost peed myself. It was like my Advanced all over again...about the same mass, ypr, hardpoints. I stuck with it for a while (even loaded all my old Advanced parts into it, daam it's a sick little fighter) and recently for the heck of it fully outfitted a Rihk. Loads of parts, some of them I haven't even bothered getting RE'd for lower mass yet, and I still have enough room for a kitchen and minibar. I'm almost giddy with excitement over being able to fly a Krayt soon. Picked up a 210k+change chassis for about 300k last night, I'm hoping to expand the kitchen a little bit and include a breakfast nook

/laugh

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Vegitaa

Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:06 am

#11

MonsofoLexius wrote:

for Kessel yes I think so. But you would need to hit the rebel stations in Dant space for that (both overt and to travel to kessel). AFAIK you will NOT be able to hit deep space as a ground Imp as a space rebel. The Privateer station checks to see what your ground faction is before it gives you options. Might hold true for Kessel too, have never tried to "cross-factions" as I have a pilot in each..

Hehehehe.. Kessel Killfest anyone? LMAO!!!!! Too kewl! (Hope I don't accidentally blast any of my guildies.. I'll see if this works tonight. Lord knows I'll need to hit Kessel to go grind that 4 mil for tier 4. (Thank god for multi-master exp bonus!)

/salute

There is no peace, there is anger.
There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.

Nooca

Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:14 pm

#12

You know, after four aces, Smug Alliance, Crimson Phoenix, IMperial Inquisition, And now Havok Squadron, I am not sure which is the easiest or hardest. As far as the actual Vette, it is easiest as an Imperial, hands down. Rebel Gunboats are easy pickin's from the bottom and with bomberstrike, the vette is soloable if you know what you are doing. But, those darn A-Wings are not fun to shoot at, thats for sure. Privateers definitely have a good deal with ship mass and hardpoints. But after all the millions of prestige points later, I think I like my X-Wing the best out of everything I have flown. The Dunelizard is a close second... My 2 cents...

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Vegitaa

Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:26 pm

#13

Hehehehe.. well that whole Imperial Colonel thing is making it impossible for me to try out Rebel ships, but maybe someday I'll get Jedi and have an alt.. or I could always drop cash on a 2nd acct... meh.

You are right though about the Rebel Gunboats, They have belly guns (I know I see them rotating like mad) but they never fire unless you're on an actual Pilot Mission.

Imp, first time I aced Black Epsilon was pretty tough, no re'ed gear, no master exp bonus, and still getting used to the game. Imperial Inquisition took 18 hours and I solo'ed the whole thing. But of course, I already knew how to fly, had good comp's, already had the ships and FC's.. etc..

I know master exp caps at x4 once you hit your fourth Ace but I figure I'll do all the pilot prof's I can for the badges, gear, and well.. I actually enjoy it. Wonder what stats you would get using 6 reward engines in a single re?

There is no peace, there is anger.
There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.

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