Pilot Archive
Thread: Y-8 Alternate Use Proposal
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Gizmarke
Tue May 24, 2005 8:53 pm
#1
I was taking a couple buddies up in my Y-8 to show them how to mine and asked some other guys to escort me so the bandits wouldn'tget the better of us. Its slow going as usual, one of the escorts had mining gear and was getting faster results than trying to mine in the cumbersome Y-8.
Which is when it struck me.
Why can't other ships transfer their cargo to the Y-8, to act as a mobile depot, just like the resource controllers in the Homeworld Series (if anyone knows what I'm talking about).
Instead of having to make several smaller trips in a starfighter, they can just transfer their load to a Y-8, and then continue to mine. Then when the Y-8 is full, it could hopefully land, unload and get back to the asteroid before the miners have a full load again.
This not only would improve mining productivity, it would give the Y-8 a unique function that other ships do not possess.
Additional ship points (in the ship terminal => manage screen) to add cargo space seem logical too. That ship is huge, and only has about the cargo room of 3-4 starfighters?
The turrets on the ship could then be used for defense instead of ungainly mining. Its just too big a ship to mine where being in a nimble ship makes the process alot faster.
POB ships could also use this function too, however their cargo room should not be greater than the Y-8.
I figure a good number to shoot for would be around 10-20k total cargo room for the Y-8.
It could then support 3-4 mining ships making several runs before being full and being forced to land.
All this would require is some sort of docking consent on both sides, so then the two ships can transfer mined resources.
Any other suggestions or comments on improving the Y-8 for mining in a group?
Though I'd still like the pilot's gun mount to be fixed, along with the tractor beam hitbox looked at. VERY frustrating trying to mine in that ship even with a full crew of gunners.
Nicolas_Frost
Tue May 24, 2005 9:50 pm
#2
Good idea. And docking consent can be controled through the ship's Operations. Simply put, to you'd need to do the following.
Now, for POB ships to dock, that'll be a little different. Ops on both sides would have to offer and accept the docking. The Pilot just flies.
- Mining Fighter targets Y-8.
- Mining Fighter uses /dock or hits thier dock keybinding.
- Whoever runs Ops on the Y-8 gets a dialog asking to accept/deny docking or transfer cargo.
- Ops makes a choice and clicks OK.
- Game follows from there.
Now, for POB ships to dock, that'll be a little different. Ops on both sides would have to offer and accept the docking. The Pilot just flies.
Gizmarke
Tue May 24, 2005 10:06 pm
#3
Nicolas_Frost wrote:
Now, for POB ships to dock, that'll be a little different. Ops on both sides would have to offer and accept the docking. The Pilot just flies.
Actually I meant for a Starfighter to dock and transfer its load to a POB ship instead of a Y-8.
I can't imagine mining on a POB ship is faster than in a starfighter.
But yeah, that was the sort of process I had in mind.
Then the Y-8 can hyper out, sell its huge load of diamonds to a NPC station, split up the earnings and land to buy a round of drinks for everyone at the local cantina. 
Any other comments, suggestions?
Nicolas_Frost
Tue May 24, 2005 11:38 pm
#4
Well, I mentioned the Fighter to POB docking method prior to what you quoted. POB to POB docking could be usefull for transfering passengers.
Lew_TaeRa
Wed May 25, 2005 2:30 am
#5
Interesting idea. I like it.
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In its current form, the Y-8 does seem much more like a transport ship rather than an actual mining vessel. Though, in an ideal galaxy far, far away, the Y-8 would excel at both mining and the docking/transporting of cargo described here.
InfluenzaSWTA
Wed May 25, 2005 5:32 pm
#7
A very good proposal, and maybe the only way you'd ever fill up a 35k Y-8 cargo hold 
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Djyn
Thu May 26, 2005 8:36 am
#8
I like
If you fit the Y-8 with 2-3Y-8 mining lasers then give the escorts the tractorbeams you could setup a production line.
Gizmarke
Thu May 26, 2005 11:03 am
#9
Djyn wrote:
If you fit the Y-8 with 2-3Y-8 mining lasers then give the escorts the tractorbeams you could setup a production line.
Yeah, I thought about that too, then you can keep generating medium asteroids for the smaller ships. Keep them moving.
And a interceptor-type ships just from protection from bandits would be nice, if you're in t5 or t4 space.
Any other miners have comments?
Now all we need them to do is put it in the game.
I won't hold my breath
Bawa
Thu May 26, 2005 11:16 am
#10
Very good idea
Anything that can allow players to dock with eachothers will be great.
All of the POB ships should have that option, enabling players to fly up to it, request docking and then enter the ship to walk around inside...
Anything that can allow players to dock with eachothers will be great.
All of the POB ships should have that option, enabling players to fly up to it, request docking and then enter the ship to walk around inside...
Gyrtris
Thu May 26, 2005 11:43 am
#11
One of the ideas I had would be to give the Y-8 a small starfighter bay. Capable of having 3-4 interceptor class starfighters land. This would take the place of a cargo hold.
BlackJango
Thu May 26, 2005 3:15 pm
#12
I say it needs 3-6 360/90 degree turrents in the front and one top/bottom/back for defense. Make it a big 12 man company mining vessel.
JanuHull
Thu May 26, 2005 4:41 pm
#13
BlackJango wrote:
I say it needs 3-6 360/90 degree turrents in the front and one top/bottom/back for defense. Make it a big 12 man company mining vessel.
Now that would be awesome. Fit it out right, and it becomes a POB capital starship.
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