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Thread: NPC gunners/ multi player ships

true06
Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:27 am
#1

bump
Electro5
Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:30 am
#2

Doubtful it'll happen, because either


A.) The NPC gunners suck and are worthless


or


B.) They are such sharpshooters that no one would ever use players any more, thus eliminating the MP aspect of the ships



Its been asked before.




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Kyodor
Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:49 am
#3

Hmmm, imagine your Nova/YT/VT gunned by the same NPCs who gun the Aggressors.

Ouch.



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sememon
Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:57 am
#4

Having player gunners adds to the fun of multi-passenger ships.


But POB ships like the nova/decimator/yt need a total overhaul.


Either need to have a huge increase in pob ship equipment and/or secondry slots for 2 shields, reactors, etc.


As well as the 2 turrets, there should possibly be 2 forward facing guns oporated by the pilot and/or co-pilot.


as it is now, POB ships are to weak and have too little firepower, this is even more obvious with the additon of the cool RoTW ships



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Yalton
Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:59 am
#5



true06 wrote:
Ok ill make this brief because its late...
The multiplayer gun ships are pretty much worthless in any combat, even with ace gunners.. just for the simple fact that its really hard to man the guns..
I would really like to have some npc gunners that i could deploy on my decimator into the turrets, so that when i fly, i will have some protection...
ther are a million more things i could say about this, but i am very tired...
thanks,
bye





They are Multiplayer Ships. Not Player ships with NPCs. If you're gunners have trouble then they need to work on it. Not all Ace pilots make good or even passable gunners has been my experience. My best gunners have been some tier 2 pilots. It also requires the pilot to stop rolling and doing all the other stuff that throws off the gunners. If the pilot makes aspect changes slowly it makes all gunners more accurate. The PoBs are the only ships that require practice as a team. Sure you practices as individuals but the crew needs to be used to working with each other and comunicating. Most people go in to space and fly with out help or with some friends. This does not count as practice for being a gunner. In fact people that seems to make some poor pilots seem to make better gunners. Maybe it is the whole thing about not being used to following and shooting the target...

I don't ever want to see NPCs on player ships as crew members. If you cna't get a crew together for a PoB or even a vette or any other ship that is ging to be added then your'e out of luck. Even I don't get a gunner for my krate most of the time and it is easier then getting the crew for a PoB.
true06
Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:13 am
#6

i definatly see your guys' point.. but i still dont think it would be that bad...


for instance,.. i am a player who wants to log on when i have time, and do witht that time what i want..


what i want to do is sit in my decimator have it still flying while im sitting in my throne, while fighters attack me i want my ship to shoot back with out having to do anything unless i want to..


I dont have friends ingame who would want to just sit on my guns and or pilot my ship while i just sit around...


I mean would you want to do that?


its all about the experience.. sure maybe npcs would be sharpshooters.. but look at a rebel gunboat.. a few shots from one of them and you are history...


true06
Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:18 am
#7

you know? maybe they could only be used in PVE.. for PVP you must have player gunners...
BlackJango
Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:29 am
#8


So you want to do nothing and get free loot?


Dont think so.


I Love taking a VT-49 up with a few ppl, not even a few crew, but the teamwork of it is great, if you take away that, in PvE or PvP, its just a big hulk with auto-turrents. No fun, not for me at least



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true06
Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:39 am
#9



fine dont let npcs get loot...


fun for you is different than fun for me...



dude.. im not asking for an uber ship load out here.. just something that will protect me while i am cruising solo in my decimator.. as it stands now ill have to stop the ship.. run to the turret, and never kill anything.. leading to my inevitable death, and loss of a ship.


its not a big deal, just give some basic npc gunners that do their job and thats it.. no Player is going to want to be mysucka like that.

Message Edited by true06 on 06-12-2005 10:43 AM

BlackJango
Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:45 am
#10






true06 wrote:



fine dont let npcs get loot...


fun for you is different than fun for me...



dude.. im not asking for an uber ship load out here.. just something that will protect me while i am cruising solo in my decimator.. as it stands now ill have to stop the ship.. run to the turret, and never kill anything.. leading to my inevitable death, and loss of a ship.


its not a big deal, just give some basic npc gunners that do their job and thats it.. no Player is going to want to be mysucka like that.


Message Edited by true06 on 06-12-2005 10:43 AM





Its called Ace for a reason, besides, even if you are a true ACE not some guy who's friends did everything for him, you still cant and shouldnt be able to stay alive ina POB in a combat situation without a crew.


POB's are SUPPOSED to be uselesswithout players, get it through your head.





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true06
Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:47 am
#11



lol ok dude... if you must be ajerk about it.. go ahead...


I am not asking for a fight... just a conversation....



Message Edited by true06 on 06-12-2005 10:49 AM

BlackJango
Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:49 am
#12

I'm not being a 'dicck' about anything, I'm just stating the facts.



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true06
Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:51 am
#13


whos facts? yours?



thats what i thought... now play nice or dont play at all...


its fine if you hate this idea.. im sure a lot of people do..


but then, i am also sure there are a fair amount of people who wouldnt mind being able to cruise around when they log on for 5 minutes without the time to get a whole crew together...

Message Edited by true06 on 06-12-2005 10:52 AM

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