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Thread: Screaming Vengeance, The Deep Space TIE Interceptor Project.(NOW WITH STATs!)

Vegitaa
Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:34 pm
#1


Well folks. I feel into a rut that I think many other pilots have. You go up in the pilot tree believing that the next highest cert ship is obviously better than what you're currently flying.


Y'know what I mean, trading out your TIE Advanced for an Oppresor. Or Trading your TIE Intercepter for an Advanced. Now, of course, as you go higher in cert's the ships have more mass and obviously this is a good thing. Viduus and I were talking about this in guildchat and (I believe it was his idea) the idea of a Deep Space TIE Intercepter came up.


Yeah yeah, I know, 50k mass is nothing. I have Capacitors that wiegh more than that. So anyway, Vid puts one together with some insane lvl 6 Re'ed engine, slaps on some low mass high quality re'ed components and figures why not test it out. Let me tell you, this thing screams! Immediately I put in an order for him to build me one. (I had to give him his sick engine back though.. lmao!)


Needless to say, I now fly a TIE Intercepter in Deep Space almost nightly. Using droid programs and some seriously re'ed components this thing is amazing. Turns on a dime, accelerates like nothing you've seen, and as soon as I can gather 4 more lvl 6 engines it should be even better!


I bring this up just because a lot of people ask a lot of questions about mass and component levels and what they need to be able to compete in Deep Space. Well, I'm doing all that in a Tier 3 cert'd ship with 50k mass. Gunboats, AWings, Rebel players... the only difference I've noticed is that I can fly sideways around these things now.


I just wanted to point this out so other pilots may open their minds to this. So be careful Rebel Pilots of Ahazi, next time you see an Intercepter in Deep Space instead of thinking "What a Newb" you may be thinking "Where they hell did he come from?"


(PS I'm at work right now but when I get home I'll post the stats on this ship.)


/salute

Message Edited by Vegitaa on 02-22-2005 10:44 PM



There is no peace, there is anger.
There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.


WTS
Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:12 pm
#2

my interceptor setup is basically my TIE advanced setup except that extra 15k mass gets used by a second RE'ed gun. the main problem is that while it's pretty much as good as the advanced in PVP (extra gun doesn't help much), killing NPC rebels while passing the time is harder. (ie gunboats take twice as long to kill.)

i was thinking of changing the TIE advanced to do like awing pilots do: use one gun and the heavier lvl 8 reward shields.



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Vegitaa
Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:44 pm
#3






Alyxian wrote:

Um, as far as I know, the advanced will do much better for you. I tested all this too and found the advanced has all the same speed modifiers as the Interceptor chassis, plus extra mass. It just does not make sense to run an Interceptor







Well, I do agree that using all the same components I can have a really nice advanced and throw on an extra gun (the one I have for that is a 3640 max dam). But, for me... "It just doesn't make sense to run an intercepter" I am running the Intercepter more for look and feel. Star Warseyness is a term I've seen thrown around a lot.


I don't endorse others doing things "my way" because I don't believe I'm always right. I will say this, it just puts a huge smile on my face to go cruising in this bird. When they first announced JTL (before I got into beta) there were very few "iconic" ships I wanted to fly as an Imp. At the top of that list was the TIE Intercepter.


Of course, you are correct. With the extra mass, and nearly identical stats the advanced is a better choice if all you're looking for is beefier stats, I figure thats why it is called "advanced" lol. In my opinion, my choice is based solely on style, looks, and feeling in flight. I even keep the cockpit graphics turned on in the Intercepter just because it looks so cool.


Essentially, I wanted to point out to other pilots that not only is it possible but it is viable to fly lower tiered ships even after you hit Ace. I know that most of us current Ace pilots probably already know this and have experimented ourselves, but for the "fledgling" pilots out there I wanted them to know it's fun too.


(edited for poor spelling.. lol)


/salute

Message Edited by Vegitaa on 02-22-2005 02:47 PM



There is no peace, there is anger.
There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.


Tumbler2002
Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:31 pm
#4

I'm currently running through the Inquisition missions atm (I got the Black Epsilon ace first) and I really missed using the Interceptor. I wish they would tweak the ships better so that all ships can be used in PvP in some way. Simple tie fighters (20k mass) should be extremely fast and manueverable but they aren't. The Tie/In is nice but without more mass it just can't support the systems you'd need to make it competitive. Even if you got rid of shields and made it a flying gun, there is no benefit to you despite the disadvantage you have.

If we want players to use ships besides the ones with the greatest advantages we need to reward players for using ships with disadvantages. Points should be awarded for taking out ships that are superior to yours and those points can be used to benefit you in some way. (Probably just buying reward loot from pilot trainers or something)

Example
A-wing vs Tie Advanced - Even match, 4 point to the winner.
A-wing vs Tie Interceptor - Uneven match, 2 to the Awing for win/8 pts to Interceptor for the win
A-wing vs Tie/in - Uneven match, 1 awing win/16 points for Tie/In to win

You get the idea. These numbers are completely made up but it's be fairly easy to design a cost system that pilot trainers charge for high quality loot that can only be purchased with these PvP victory points. And to be fair to PvE there should probably be a conversion rate for Prestige points to PvP victory points. Mabye 1 million prestige = 1 Pvp Victory Point.


Hmm I like this idea so Much I'm going to post it under it's own thread.
Alyxian
Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:39 pm
#5









Vegitaa wrote:


But, for me... "It just doesn't make sense to run an intercepter" I am running the Intercepter more for look and feel. Star Warseyness is a term I've seen thrown around a lot.


I don't endorse others doing things "my way" because I don't believe I'm always right. I will say this, it just puts a huge smile on my face to go cruising in this bird. When they first announced JTL (before I got into beta) there were very few "iconic" ships I wanted to fly as an Imp. At the top of that list was the TIE Intercepter.





Kudos to you!!


I like the look of it better too, in fact I hated the Adv look so much I did not even fly one until after hitting master and joining the PvP fray


I did manage to wedge an awesome lev 6 shield into the Interceptor that let me take the full twin blast from my guildmates Adv and still be able to flyby and turn on her butt. Problem was my engine, but I have a fix for that now too. Hmm, might have to try it again...


Damn you for getting me thinking about it again!!!


Message Edited by Alyxian on 02-22-2005 02:40 PM



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SeraphDauthi
Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:09 pm
#6






Vegitaa wrote:






Well, I do agree that using all the same components I can have a really nice advanced and throw on an extra gun (the one I have for that is a 3640 max dam). But, for me... "It just doesn't make sense to run an intercepter" I am running the Intercepter more for look and feel. Star Warseyness is a term I've seen thrown around a lot.


I don't endorse others doing things "my way" because I don't believe I'm always right. I will say this, it just puts a huge smile on my face to go cruising in this bird. When they first announced JTL (before I got into beta) there were very few "iconic" ships I wanted to fly as an Imp. At the top of that list was the TIE Intercepter.


Of course, you are correct. With the extra mass, and nearly identical stats the advanced is a better choice if all you're looking for is beefier stats, I figure thats why it is called "advanced" lol. In my opinion, my choice is based solely on style, looks, and feeling in flight. I even keep the cockpit graphics turned on in the Intercepter just because it looks so cool.


Essentially, I wanted to point out to other pilots that not only is it possible but it is viable to fly lower tiered ships even after you hit Ace. I know that most of us current Ace pilots probably already know this and have experimented ourselves, but for the "fledgling" pilots out there I wanted them to know it's fun too.


(edited for poor spelling.. lol)


/salute


Message Edited by Vegitaa on 02-22-2005 02:47 PM



Great reasoning!!! Its the same very reason why I no longer fly my Freelance Ace toon unless its in a Firespray or YT-1300. Iprefer to fly in either an A-Wing, X-Wing, and yes believe it or not, the B-Wing with my Alt. I only want to fly what I consider Star Wars and iconic. The other freelancer ships such as the Dune Lizard or Krayt were very effective but I felt I was not playing Star Wars thatI know and love. Now if I could only fit in a Y-Wing I would be set along with the other 3 rebel iconic ships that I have. =P




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Nailliar
Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:48 pm
#7

Like you I love the TIE Interceptor, but I''ve found the the spread on the quad lasers is a disadvantage fighting Awing's, I've watched all four bolts bracket Awings andwithnonehitting the target. For that reason alone I now use TIEAdvancedfor dog-fighting with it's close-grouped weapons. For Star Wars immersion the old "Eye-ball" is the best, nothing beats hearing a std. TIE Fighter scream by.



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Vegitaa
Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:44 pm
#8

Well.. as promised....


Drumroll please....


Here are the stats on Screaming Vengeance

TIE Intercepter

Flown by Captain Vegitaa Gaiden

Lieutant in command < Money Makers > ISS Squadron


Main Reactor
KUAT RE'ed lvl 4
Mass 3689.1
Generation Rate 12287.5


Engine
Level 6 reward (Not RE'ed yet)
mass 13765.9
Top Speed 79.0
YPR 63.2


Shield
Level 7
mass 14642.7
Front/Back 10000.0/1734.8
recharge rate 12.0


Front armour
level 2
mass 1042.9
armour 162.5/162.5


Rear armour
level 1
mass 890.3
armour 102.3/102.3


Capacitor
Level 4 RE'ed
mass 3254.5
energy 1000.0/942.2
recharge 40.2


Booster
level 4 RE'ed
mass 3245.6
acceleration 34.5
top speed 26.0


Droid interface
level 1 re'ed
mass 433.4
speed 16.4

Not too bad in my opinion. Thanks big time to Viduus and his amazing skills.


/salute



There is no peace, there is anger.
There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.


TomoRainer
Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:50 pm
#9

I use an Interceptor for PVP out of a possibly erroneous belief that it presents a smaller target. Though to be honest, it makes me feel like more of a badass to fly one, and as I'm assigned to do a lot of scouting during Starsider's space battles, it feels more appropriate for that role as well.

You can definitely do a lot with 50K mass. I've got a level 6 prenerf engine, an RE'd level 7 reward gun, and crafted level 7 shields, and still have room for a missile launcher alongside all the other necessities.







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Halyn
Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:05 am
#10

My guildmate who did all the Freelance and Imp squads with me recently brought up mass management after we both returned to the Alliance. We both really realized how much of a mass advantage Alliance starfighters have...the X-wing's 100k and even the A-wing's 65k gives Alliance pilots the ability to load up some *nice* equipment.


I did realize recently that my guild breaks all the rules of space PvP. Hell, our fearless leader flies a Longprobe into battle. Ask the 121st on Starsider if you don't believe me. Most of our pilots prefer the X-wing, too.




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Alyxian
Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:04 am
#11

Um, as far as I know, the advanced will do much better for you. I tested all this too and found the advanced has all the same speed modifiers as the Interceptor chassis, plus extra mass. It just does not make sense to run an Interceptor



Alyxian Gorgaan
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MonsofoLexius
Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:16 am
#12

Ya I am finding that after stockpilling a ton of RE'd stuff I end with things like:


A-wing


  • Reward shields

  • Reward engine

  • Reward borstel

  • Re'd Lvl 4 cap

  • and like 2K mass left over fully loaded (tax and dock fees not included)


Never thought I would have seen that day. Same thing on some of my Imperial ships.




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Ramona_Garcia
Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:49 am
#13

I fly a squint with my alt as well, haven't flown any other ship but the starter TIE, TIE-fighter, TIE/IN and then the TIE Interceptor, all the way from 3333 (choose ships as last box) to ace.



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