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Thread: possible to have too much pyr?

jeromfelt
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:38 pm
#1

i was talking to some people the other night, and we came to the conclusion, that with all the lvl 8's and lvl 10's in such swift ships these days, it has become quite common for people to pretty much just pivot in one place, making them an easy target.


Altho with special care, this can be avoided, but then u might not be pullin the best turns u can. I was thinking of throwing a lvl 10 engine in my a wing, but honestly i think i may stick to my nyms/protecto/tri cannon set up.


either way, practice makes perfect, just thot id throw out something you all can debate on instead of working of studying




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psikobunny
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:00 pm
#2


Pivoting in place only becomes a problem when you're in a scrum, or if for some reason you do it too early while the person is still approaching and can line up on you. Otherwise, you're essentially always "behind" your target, since he's making wider circles.


Simple solution would be to tap your booster when you feel like you're in too tight a circle and your foe might be getting a line on you. This instantly widens your arc, and may even skew your facing the last couple of degrees you need to get a shot on him.


Also remember that what may feel like pivoting in place almost never is. To get a more objective idea of what your movements look like, go out with friends and make your tightest loops in front of them, while they sit stationary and watch you, then change places and watch them. It's easier to gain perspective when one of you isn't moving.





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Attacca
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:12 pm
#3

Gilack posted! But, um, what's a scrum?


I posted on this a while back, and it didn't get nearly the attention I felt it deserved. A fast engine will make up for quite a lack in PYR, but it's not a simple thing to discuss. Like Gilack said though, most engines (QID anyone?) are never sitting in space, although they may appear to be at times.


Also realize that some ships with insane PYR and low speed (Oppressor, X-Wing, etc. at low throttle) can be a real nightmare for light ships like A-Wings or Interceptors that have a low slide ability and have to attack targets directly.






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psikobunny
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:16 pm
#4






Attacca wrote:

Gilack posted! But, um, what's a scrum?





Same as a furball, but doesn't make me think of the noise my cat makes.




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Attacca
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:17 pm
#5

Hrm, that's more of a htwakljk! htwakljk! kinda sound. Or do you mean the sound after I push the cat into the bathtub full of water?





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psikobunny
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:18 pm
#6






Attacca wrote:
Hrm, that's more of a htwakljk! htwakljk! kinda sound. Or do you mean the sound after I push the cat into the bathtub full of water?




*sigh* I dont think of it for onomatpaeic reasons, but when my cat has a furball... and coughs it up.... get it now? Scrum is a rugby term.



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Attacca
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:20 pm
#7

Well, in that case it's a cry of anguish like, 'rrrrroowwwwwwwwwww!' when I chase the cat out of the room for hacking up on my desk. Usually leading to the above mentioned bathtub treatment.





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psikobunny
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:26 pm
#8






Attacca wrote:
Well, in that case it's a cry of anguish like, 'rrrrroowwwwwwwwwww!' when I chase the cat out of the room for hacking up on my desk. Usually leading to the above mentioned bathtub treatment.




And people wonder why I stopped posting....



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Attacca
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:29 pm
#9

Didn't mean to offend, just having some fun... Miss seeing you around here.





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psikobunny
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:35 pm
#10






Attacca wrote:
Didn't mean to offend, just having some fun... Miss seeing you around here.





I've obviously been gone long enough that your deadpan humor sensor is on the fritz. You should get that checked.



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KaylBreinhar
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:38 pm
#11

It's for this particular reason that I never use a solid axis in PvP. I'll always work in pitch, yaw, and roll simultaneously to prevent "Sitting Duck Syndrome."



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Ralen-Sharr
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:56 pm
#12

Thraddand I actually tested this


and if your PYR is high enough and TS low enough, you can even turn backwards in a slide (a-wings have a nice slide)


and yes, some ships will sit there with thier nose glued in place with the rear swinging around the axis


too much? well if you sit and spin, you will not move much, but I wouldn't shoot myself in the foot over it by intentionally cutting my PYR



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LeaphChausew
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:04 pm
#13






Ralen-Sharr wrote:

Thraddand I actually tested this


and if your PYR is high enough and TS low enough, you can even turn backwards in a slide (a-wings have a nice slide)


and yes, some ships will sit there with thier nose glued in place with the rear swinging around the axis


too much? well if you sit and spin, you will not move much, but I wouldn't shoot myself in the foot over it by intentionally cutting my PYR





turn...backwards? Please define this. You mean when you kind of ricochet your throttle off a preset then slam it back up while executing a tight combination of roll and pitch to make the ship backflip more or less 'on the spot' ?

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