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Thread: so now that we are getting another crappy ship

zorf
Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:50 am
#1

ie YT-2400 , can we get something more fun like the lambda shuttle ... or the corvette anyways kinda disapointed SOE couldnt come up with something cool this time around.





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Julak
Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:54 am
#2

amen brother, i want the lambda so bad, it could be like a mini POB kinda, but no, we get some other POB



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Halyn
Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:55 am
#3

In all fairness, a *lot* of people did want the YT-2400 since JtL's release--a lot more people than those who wanted an Actis Interceptor or Belbullab-22.




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Julak
Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:57 am
#4

I want an Actis...wait no I don't...wait yes I do (enter big SOE ominous voice) "you want the YT-2400, casue it will be bygged to h#&l" I want the YT-2400 cause its bugged...



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Halyn
Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:59 am
#5

What I mean is, if SOE had conducted a poll of pilots, and asked "Which ship would you prefer out of this list: Eta-2 Actis Interceptor, Belbullab-22, or the YT-2400?", the YT would've won it hands-down. Most people wouldn't have even known what the Belbullab-22 is.




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Julak
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:05 am
#6

Good point, however if you had phrased it as "do you want the ship that Anakin flew in Ep. 3, the one that obi-wan flies after he kills grievous, or some spinoff on the millenium falcon?" and add in "how about the lambda shuttle?" ooh yea hurry up and write more of the nalera conflict



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Vegitaa
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:28 am
#7

There's three ships that people have been BEGGING for since JTL was in Beta. I always thought they needed to give us a few more ships anyways. So here's a quick run down on what people wanted and a decent way to implement them....


Imperials:



  • Lambda Shuttle (IMHO this is a must have ship. I mean come on.. is there any ship more "Imperial" in nature)

  • TIE Defender (Take the Oppressor, flip the wings around, Identical stats to the Eta-Actis 2.)

Nuetrals:



  • Big bulky frieghter, blockey in appearance but freakin huge inside. 2-4 turrets and a monstrous cargo hold. Pick any large Star Wars frieghter from the movies or expanded universe.

  • Naboo N-1 fighter. Yeppers I said it, Naboo Starfighter with Identical stats to the Eta-Actis 2. If we're gonna have these unbalancing ships the nuetrals should get a pretty one too.

Rebels:



  • Transport Frieghters from Empire Strikes back. Mount 2 turrets and make it freakin huge as well. During ROTW Beta I remember seeing these on a few escort missions so I know the models are already in game.

  • New Rebel Fighter. I'm thinking maybe the E-Wing or similair Expanded universe ship. Again, Identical stats to the Eta-Actis 2

I know, I already peev'ed some folks off by saying "Identical stats to the Eta-Actis 2" but the way I see it, these are already in-game and aren't going to be changed or removed. So instead of seeing the JSF-Space Composite everywhere why not throw some variety into the mix.


All the iconic Rebel ships are already in-game so not sure which fighter would be best for them. I believe each of the three factions need new ships at regular intervals.


The YT-2400 is a good compromise though. Everyone was screaming for it during Beta. Not too mention the monsterous uproar when people found out the YT-1300 was nuetral only. People are still upset about that one. So SOE is throwing those players a bone by cross certing the YT2400. IMHO, this was a good choice. Lord knows I want one.


Now if they would only fix the bug that stops you from having 3 fully decorated/functioning POB's in your datapad at the sametime......


(If you have a Y8, Decimator, and Yacht in your datapad at the sametime it will not let you launch any of them into space until you remove one of them.)





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There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.


LeaphChausew
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:48 am
#8






Vegitaa wrote:

There's three ships that people have been BEGGING for since JTL was in Beta. I always thought they needed to give us a few more ships anyways. So here's a quick run down on what people wanted and a decent way to implement them....


Imperials:



  • Lambda Shuttle (IMHO this is a must have ship. I mean come on.. is there any ship more "Imperial" in nature)

  • TIE Defender (Take the Oppressor, flip the wings around, Identical stats to the Eta-Actis 2.)

Nuetrals:



  • Big bulky frieghter, blockey in appearance but freakin huge inside. 2-4 turrets and a monstrous cargo hold. Pick any large Star Wars frieghter from the movies or expanded universe.

  • Naboo N-1 fighter. Yeppers I said it, Naboo Starfighter with Identical stats to the Eta-Actis 2. If we're gonna have these unbalancing ships the nuetrals should get a pretty one too.

Rebels:



  • Transport Frieghters from Empire Strikes back. Mount 2 turrets and make it freakin huge as well. During ROTW Beta I remember seeing these on a few escort missions so I know the models are already in game.

  • New Rebel Fighter. I'm thinking maybe the E-Wing or similair Expanded universe ship. Again, Identical stats to the Eta-Actis 2

I know, I already peev'ed some folks off by saying "Identical stats to the Eta-Actis 2" but the way I see it, these are already in-game and aren't going to be changed or removed. So instead of seeing the JSF-Space Composite everywhere why not throw some variety into the mix.


All the iconic Rebel ships are already in-game so not sure which fighter would be best for them. I believe each of the three factions need new ships at regular intervals.


The YT-2400 is a good compromise though. Everyone was screaming for it during Beta. Not too mention the monsterous uproar when people found out the YT-1300 was nuetral only. People are still upset about that one. So SOE is throwing those players a bone by cross certing the YT2400. IMHO, this was a good choice. Lord knows I want one.


Now if they would only fix the bug that stops you from having 3 fully decorated/functioning POB's in your datapad at the sametime......


(If you have a Y8, Decimator, and Yacht in your datapad at the sametime it will not let you launch any of them into space until you remove one of them.)








I disagree with most of it, but I do like the idea of more ships. I don't believe any new ship should have identical handling to the Actis because it just makes things boring. If anything, have it close but lower and possibly have a 1.0 speed mod. If this was the case, I'd set up camp outside SOE's SWG headquarters demanding a 75k mass A-wing with a 1.3 speed modifier and TIE Interceptor chassis acceleration. In fact, just having the better chassis handling acceleration and te 1.2/1.3 speed mod would go someway to making A-wings the fastest ships in the galaxy which...they should be.


I know canon has gone to hell on this game and I know general balance has in some people's eyes, but I don't think what I'm asking for is too much.



Vegitaa
Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:35 am
#9






LeaphChausew wrote:


I disagree with most of it, but I do like the idea of more ships. I don't believe any new ship should have identical handling to the Actis because it just makes things boring. If anything, have it close but lower and possibly have a 1.0 speed mod. If this was the case, I'd set up camp outside SOE's SWG headquarters demanding a 75k mass A-wing with a 1.3 speed modifier and TIE Interceptor chassis acceleration. In fact, just having the better chassis handling acceleration and te 1.2/1.3 speed mod would go someway to making A-wings the fastest ships in the galaxy which...they should be.


I know canon has gone to hell on this game and I know general balance has in some people's eyes, but I don't think what I'm asking for is too much.







In spirit I do agree with you. Honestly I don't like the new ROTW ships either. In my datapad I have....



  • TIE Intercepter: The original. Thats what I use for PvP if I'm in a Fast and Furious type of mood.

  • TIE Oppressor: Again, this is my pvp ship. JSF/ROTW pilots hate that I lob missles like a madman and have armor that can stop most of their shots.

  • Firespray: My PvE ship. I just love the look, sound and feel of this ship.

  • TIE Bomber: This is my mining ship. Works quite well with player crafted components.

  • Decimator: I love this ship and can't wait for the new POB parts to hit the streets.

  • Y-8: Looking forward to the changes and arming it to the teeth. 4 turrets, 1 main gun, 1 launcher. I swear with the new POB components and a full crew this will be the first player flown gunboat and a force to be reckoned with.

I guess the reason I said "Same stats as the Eta-Actis" was because I'm sick of the whole "king of pvp" attitude that goes with them and want to see some competition out there. I know good pilots have already overcome the percieved advantage these ships have. Honestly.... TIE Defender should have stats closer to the original TIE intercepter if it is ever implemented. If they implemented the Naboo N-1 (which I don't really think they should...) it should be fast nimble and very low on mass (unlike most nuetral ships). If the Rebels get another fighter it should be somewhere betwen an XWing and an AWing.


Personally, when we were beta testing ROTW we screamed for balance of these new ships, when it went live we screamed for balance (I being one of the first and loudest voices in the pilot forums) and all our cries were ignored. If we're forced to keep these ships as is (with decay and Weapon Overload 3 remaining bugged as well) any new ships should be able to compete with them in PvP. That was really my point. I just didn't voice it well.


If the ROTW ships disappeared from everyones datapads I wouldn't shed a bitter tear at all. I just doubt the Dev's will ever take that kind of action. There will be no YPR/Speed/Mass fixes for them. They will remain hopelessly out of balance and we are expected to swallow that. This is why I don't fly them at all.


Of course, saying I think they're out of balance pisses off the other 50% of pilots. So no matter what you say someone gets mad at ya. Too bad the CU Alpha never happened and ROTW Beta was a freakin joke that tested nothing... I'm sure TOoW will be the same.


(I would like to add they need to give us weapon convergance at 600m as well... as we've beenbegging for since day one.)





There is no peace, there is anger.
There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.


Spacey
Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:28 am
#10

The YT2400 will only be crappy if it's like the Yacht...



As for the LAMBDA - yeah, its cool... but I dont want it. I am not a taxi and the LAMBDA is a shuttle (taxi). =P



I think Privateers need a lot of lubbinz. The Rebs and Imps are pretty much where they should be (selection wise - I know... it gets old, but you are in military service, there are going to be limits)... but the privs, well the sky is the limit for them. There should also be more space factions that the priv can join.


=P


But that is something completely different.






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Alyxian
Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:22 pm
#11

No disagreeing that a Lambda shuttle wouldn't be cool, but I for one am happy about the YT-2400. Was the one privateer ship I was hoping for in JTL, and now I get one.


*shrug* Sorry you don't like it, but some of us do.





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danno13
Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:36 pm
#12






Vegitaa wrote:

Nuetrals:



  • Big bulky frieghter, blockey in appearance but freakin huge inside. 2-4 turrets and a monstrous cargo hold. Pick any large Star Wars frieghter from the movies or expanded universe.

  • Naboo N-1 fighter. Yeppers I said it, Naboo Starfighter with Identical stats to the Eta-Actis 2. If we're gonna have these unbalancing ships the nuetrals should get a pretty one too.





I would like my RSF pilot that I"RP" (to the slight extent that I RP) as being from Naboo to fly a Naboo Starfighter.




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Raptor2k1
Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:42 pm
#13

Ok, a Defender is stretching things a bit (but I could tollerate it since it's timeline isn't that off, and they're around during the OT), but E-Wing's?



Those things are new 5 years after Return of the Jedi.





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