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Thread: How i have been successful a few times in pvp since master pikeman without using Dots.
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Wynstick
Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:32 am
#1
Ok i figured i would let you guys know how ive done in duels with out dots since i hit master pikeman and its not easy but it takes a bit of thinking and strategy and also your gonna need some money and be able to practive a bit on your friend to get to know what specials are most effective as a master pikeman.
Ok now im a master rifleman/master pikeman with medic 2040 which having medic is a must if you pvp alot and also hunt night sisters/krayts and so on.So my block is capped and a i have a few block AA,s that add up to 17+ extra block which im not sure if they help much but im trying to have faith that they do.
Ok first of all ive been a rifleman for some time so im not sure how just pikeman would sum up against another hybrid profession but i know for a fact we can tear ange apart with out dots.I picked pikeman because i already was a master fencer and master swords for a while and always sort of admired pikeman and said hey let me give it a try. i believe its the most unique interesting and has the best looking animations out of every melee profession and i dont care what everyone else thinks but im not gonna go be a tkm like 80% of the servers population because just in my opinion and i hope i dont offend anyone but i believe tkm takes no skill and would probibly not feel like an accomplishment after beating some one in a duel because there is not much to it but spamming 2 moves but like i said just my opinion.
Ok for starters your gonna wanna get some be clothing.you want a form fitting undershirt/sungard hat/camo or infiltrator pants or which ever ones you like or can find/also get a spec ops duster and a bandolier.Ok now with these 5 articles of clothing each one should have +4 melee defense and 15+ defense vs stun which al together with give you 75 + more defense vs stun which tkm,s love to land stun on you and 20+more melee defense now giving you 40 melee defense and 115 defense vs stun which is alot better than what you have without these be clothes and i know your thinking well now i cant wear armor thats not a good thing well thats not true but if you want skip the hat or head wear and get a 80% to kinetic comp helmet.
Ok now for food/buffs and all that good stuff.You are going to want to pick up some synsteak which normally will reduce the damage of attacks by 40% which has saved me arse plenty of times whether its pvp or pve it really helps.next but some melee defense food which will give you about 20+ more melee defense for a given amount of time which i believe the stuff i have lasts 9-12 minutes but im not sure cause im not in game atm.of course you want canape and brandy as well and also try to get a hold of some citrus snow cake because the 40+ acccuracy goes a long way and of course youll want to test these tactics and food combos on a friend or who ever else is willing to help you find out what works best.now you also have to think that your opponent is eating his own food and chances are he knows what hes doing and he may or may not be an experianced pvp,er.
Now the way i look at pikeman is more of a defensive profession and yes i heard a few people say this and i totally agree with them and also the fact that its best to wear your opponent down instead of going crazy trying to kill them so the 2 most important things you can so right from the start are intimidate and warcry.intimidate as you all know is very important to making your enemy not as effective as he usually is by making him miss more often and doing less damage now correct me if im wrong but ive been up all night and i have no sleep and im trying to make this as helpful and as short as possible hehe.then warcry which cancels there action for 10 seconds.these 2 things are wearing them down and it will take time but there food will start to wear away and they will get frusterated wondering why there having trouble beating you and the only way you can do damage is if there not wearing high resist comp armor so make that one rule of the fight no armor.dont forgt mind buffs if you could also.when im fully mind buffed ill drink 2 brandys/1 canape/1 synsteak and 1 melee defense food.always kep them intimidated and stuned and dizzy and try to get them on there back as much as possible and use those action bleeds which you can stack which you must use to your advantage
now i know i may have not covered everything but i hope this helps and it has worked for me several times already.thank you for reading this long post and again i hope it helps a bit.
Akanah
Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:14 pm
#3
"the only way you can do damage is if there not wearing high resist comp armor so make that one rule of the fight no armor."
I don't think thats gonna work in PvP 90% of the time.
annelid0
Sun Sep 19, 2004 2:26 pm
#4
You're not allowed to set your own rules in PvP. This is a way to be sucessful in duels, in freeform PvP DoTs sadly remain necessary.
DarthMarksman
Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:15 pm
#5
I don't PvP, but from whatI have observed, if you ask a person to take off their armor they are more likely to tell you "where to go". 
Krul
Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:56 pm
#6
Having more then +25 in any mods on clothing (IE you talk about +70Def from stun clothing) is like having an unopened beer in the fridge, it looks good but doesnt do anything for you. All+ mods from clothes or attachmentsare capped at +25. This doesnt apply to bonuses from food or Squad leaders however.
Techdevil
Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:58 am
#8
Your post says without DOT's yet you finish off by advising ppl to stack bleeds which are DOT's. Good info for new players over all but dropping on bleeds in a no DOT duel will get you flamed and most likely triple incapped by your opponent
NotOneYouKnow
Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:03 am
#9
You really aren't successful if you have to ask your opponent to fight without armor, just so that you can have a chance at victory.
P.s. warcry really doesnt do that much for duels anymore
P.p.s... Why do I never read about anyone using Ahrisa?
P.s. warcry really doesnt do that much for duels anymore
P.p.s... Why do I never read about anyone using Ahrisa?
Xelloss_Metallium
Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:43 am
#10
Krul wrote:
Having more then +25 in any mods on clothing (IE you talk about +70Def from stun clothing) is like having an unopened beer in the fridge, it looks good but doesnt do anything for you. All+ mods from clothes or attachmentsare capped at +25. This doesnt apply to bonuses from food or Squad leaders however.
ROFL /bmoc kyu
Krash32
Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:13 am
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I'm guessing there is some good stuff in there.
consider redoing it in an outline type format
Noraa
Cango
Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:35 am
#12
Sadly, in serious PvP, you either need a Mind DoT, or a high damage LVA/VL
Wynstick
Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:20 pm
#13
ok so i know this may sound not easy and hard because we all know our disadvantages as a pikeman because of migitation and were not as fast as others.All i am trying to do is help new pikeman and i wouldnt post this long bit for nothing,i myself have been playing this game ever since about 4 months ago and i have been every template possible including many doc combinations and i have to say i like pikeman/rifleman the best even though i really miss fencer and wish i never gave it up but at the time i didnt know much about pvp and i got really frusterated when i had trouble winning duels because of migitation and psg,s and 40% stun comp but now i know so much more and i fight a hell of alot better with out armor and one of the pvp rules on my server which is kauri in pvp to to scrap with out armor.Now if some one wont agree to take off there armor and duel like a man then there not a real pvper in my book.dueling with armor can some times take to long and i some times see the real hardcore defense stackers going head to head for 15-20 minutes cause there wearing the most uber armor that money can buy and of course psg,s.i always walk up to them and say now why dont you fight with out armor and maybe youll get some where faster instead of just pounding away at each other doing 20-50 damage.I have had a few successful victorys in pvp with no DOTS.one was another master pikeman/bh combo and another was my good friend which is a pistoleer/fencer for extra dodge and a tkm/ws.all it takes is the right food and the right tactics and it may take a while but its more than possible and bleeds are not dots in my eyes but people are right to there own opinion but like i said its possible you just need to figure it out.
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