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Thread: Has anyone ever found Pikeman Useful in PVP?

Joebert
Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:18 am
#1

I'm only grinding Pikeman in hopes of unlocking, I get totally owned in PVP.Just wondering if this profession is actually worth something in PVP.

Ijoulia
Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:25 am
#2

well i am like 2 boxes from master yesterday in coronet i had my first pvp fight did real good ended up killing 2 rebs hehe i used my mind poison and health diease ns lance .The sweep and area attack rules :-)



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antares_Kauri
Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:49 am
#3

What makes a pikeman decent/good at PvP:


Expensive armor, mind poison/fire expensive polearms, expensive high-damage polearms, buffs, food, extra defenses from other professions.


I spent 12 million on my equipment and I do great.


antares

master pikeman



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ScDarkKnight
Sat Mar 20, 2004 10:50 am
#4






antares_Kauri wrote:

What makes a pikeman decent/good at PvP:


Expensive armor, mind poison/fire expensive polearms, expensive high-damage polearms, buffs, food, extra defenses from other professions.


I spent 12 million on my equipment and I do great.


antares

master pikeman







Exactly ....


We can attack as fast as aTKA .... if we buy Tons of Skills tape they don't need


We can attack as strong as a Swordman .... if we loot/buy a rare High Damage LVA or VL


We can be as hard to kill as a fencer .... if we dabble if other professions and with expensive armor/buffs/foods


We can use Poison/disease like CM .... if we loot/buy some NS Lances


We can Burn people like Commandos .... if we loot/buy an expensive Fire Lance



Yeah ... we rock in PvP ... but at a high price ... while all the other profession can rulz easilly with crafted weapons and whitout dabbling ...





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JLG88
Sat Mar 20, 2004 3:05 pm
#5






Winnebago wrote:
Pikeman is great for PvP!

But you have to know what you are doing, like with any other Melee profession. First order is to own a good Helmet with 80% energy resists, to keep the Riflemen busy, know a good doc, and keep a selection of awesome state slapping pikes and lances, to keep people on their toes. Having /follow in your toolbar is great, to keep yourself from being kited, even having a macro that follows and burstruns at the same time is handy, to chase down or close fast with wily, lone opponents. The key to all melee PvP, from my perspective is to not get caught far away from opponents, so use urban terrain to your advantage, or to be outnumbered by opponents at ranged. By allowing them to keep you at distance, you are basically letting them cut you down. A lot of melee people suck at melee vs. ranged PvP because they engage opponents at ranged and can't seem to understand why they are getting their heads handed to them.

You are real handy in Base defense or offense, a Pikeman hidden around a corner in a base is a nasty surprise, especially if you make a macro that cycles through a series of good, fast poison/disease/fire lances while alternating a variety of areattacks. If you survive the onslaught of raiders, you will have most of them lying on their backs, stunned, dizzied, diseased, poisoned and on fire. Then you lay in with the damage while your pals do clean up duty.

Being a Pikeman requires a bit more skill and effort than the other combat professions, but can be exremely rewarding to the experienced player, who is well equipped and prepared for a serious fight.



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SpeCiaL_Ed_
Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:48 pm
#6

Antares and I are in a similar situation. I have looted multi million credit weapons and bought many awesome ones also.


If a rifleman lets me get within 20m he won't have enough time to think, let alone survive 3 hits of my god pikes.


Another big thing, I never chase people. I make them come to me and most of the time they are dumb enough to get in close enough for a Lunge 2, polearm area 2,2 polearm hit 3's, and off to the cloner they go.


Intimidate a rifleman and they are nothing.



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Zalana
Sat Mar 20, 2004 7:37 pm
#7

I have most the high end gear you need and I am pretty damm good, one issue is I don't do that well in friendly duels without my DoT toys...


We reaaallly shine in a guild war when ur getting clone camped, get up grab ur mind fire lance, and area attack/ area kd ... u spread the love and can drop a whole group thats trying you to camp you



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ViolentAngel
Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:13 pm
#8

I've got an ImperialPrototype PSG with 50% resists to everything but Kinetic. I bought it from a vendor that was selling loads of them. I never go into town without it. I get shot at with a T21? Its got to go through two layers of armour. Jawa Ion Rifle? You don't need more than one layer. Oh and I wear Ubese Armour. I never have a problem. I've also heard of people with 50% stun resistance on their Composite Armour. You need a Master Armoursmith with some good Stun Resist plates. But I don't have a Doctor in my pocket, so I prefer to "keep it light".


The equipment is out their gentlemen. Advanced alien weapons require the most advanced protection. The Empire is looking out for you with your protection at its very heart. Buy PSGs from Official Imperial Armoursmiths, if not for you, then for your family!


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antares_Kauri
Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:24 pm
#9

All of this is indicative of an underlying problem that has been around for pikemen since the beginning. The class is simply underbalanced. To compete with the rest of the professions in pvp, we simply have to have these special, looted weapons and expensive armor, just to be as effective as other classes are with simple armor and player-made weapons.


I'd say that 60% of my pvp kills are all thanks to mind poison DoTs from NS polearms.


antares

master pikeman



|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
Joebert
Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:18 am
#10

as I said before i'm mastering in hopes of unlocking, i'm loveing pikeman in PVE but it doesn't seem worth it to spend all that money when I can just pick up rilfle man and get a decent Jawa rifle. Last night I encountered a master rifleman with no armor or buffs. I had a 80% comp armor with buffs and got owned

Ssedi
Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:36 am
#11

Well, I have a mind poison/fire lances.

When I was Master Pikeman/brawler/fencer with some tka. I could own anyone or any group out there. Dropped it because I was bored and they nerfed my waycyr


Going Master doctor/pikman and I dont do near as well any more. Might drop pike altoghter and go Fencer.



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Winnebago
Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:44 am
#12

Pikeman is great for PvP!

But you have to know what you are doing, like with any other Melee profession. First order is to own a good Helmet with 80% energy resists, to keep the Riflemen busy, know a good doc, and keep a selection of awesome state slapping pikes and lances, to keep people on their toes. Having /follow in your toolbar is great, to keep yourself from being kited, even having a macro that follows and burstruns at the same time is handy, to chase down or close fast with wily, lone opponents. The key to all melee PvP, from my perspective is to not get caught far away from opponents, so use urban terrain to your advantage, or to be outnumbered by opponents at ranged. By allowing them to keep you at distance, you are basically letting them cut you down. A lot of melee people suck at melee vs. ranged PvP because they engage opponents at ranged and can't seem to understand why they are getting their heads handed to them.

You are real handy in Base defense or offense, a Pikeman hidden around a corner in a base is a nasty surprise, especially if you make a macro that cycles through a series of good, fast poison/disease/fire lances while alternating a variety of areattacks. If you survive the onslaught of raiders, you will have most of them lying on their backs, stunned, dizzied, diseased, poisoned and on fire. Then you lay in with the damage while your pals do clean up duty.

Being a Pikeman requires a bit more skill and effort than the other combat professions, but can be exremely rewarding to the experienced player, who is well equipped and prepared for a serious fight.



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antares_Kauri
Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:31 pm
#13

And any pvp fight as a pikeman no matter the equipment will be inferior to any halfway decent tkm/rifleman. /shrug


antares
master pikeman





|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
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