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Thread: Unbalanced: Pikeman vs. Swordsman

baerenwurm
Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:47 am
#1

Generally the unbalance is not only due to the alleged advantage of the swordsman, which has the ability to damage the mind pool (incurable during fight); analogically there are rifleman and carabineer. Anyhow unbalance as regards the pools is balanced, inter alia, with the inefficiency of the rifleman in low distance fight and with some carabineer's unique special moves like chargeshot2 (to knock a target down).

Concerning pikeman and swordsman, there isn't any balance. Both have almost exactly the same special moves; both can use some of the most important special moves like intimidate, lung2 or any other knock down move.
SuicideGunner
Sun Sep 28, 2003 10:00 am
#2

for swordsman we have to get master brawler for a KD. You guys don't. just sayin that



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killadwarf
Sun Sep 28, 2003 1:34 pm
#3

*looks for the kd at master brawler*..... umm?



Saryon McFall

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Kud
Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:21 pm
#4

swordsmen get posture down attacks though which are just as good, if not better.



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Malqanar
Sun Sep 28, 2003 3:42 pm
#5

If you're talking PvP, no amount of special moves will ever come close to matching the ability to hit Mind pool - as more and more people head into battle with master doctor buffs, you'll find yourself facing peoplewith 2-2.5k health and action, but only 1k mind.Not to mention the fact that with a master doctor around they can heal each for 1k+ a pop.. PvE however, hitting mind isn't really much of an advantage.


No point getting to worried about it though IMHO, Holocron has already stated that they never intended mind to be the determining factor in PvP and they're looking at ways to balance it a bit..




Salqanar Wilveedoolee
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Witter
Sun Sep 28, 2003 11:19 pm
#6

umm no, not when the posture changes are all on the same timer which makes 3of the 4 pretty much useless as soon as the first sticks just wanted to point that out.
SeTSwiPe
Mon Sep 29, 2003 1:23 am
#7

KD nerf = useless skill.
IamDaniel
Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:08 am
#8

PD is in no way better than KD. KD prevents the victim from even attacking you, while PD only prevents melee characters from attacking you, while gunners can shoot better while kneeling.
baerenwurm
Mon Sep 29, 2003 12:08 pm
#9

@Malqanar: Next big patch willincrease thelength of entertainer's mind buff.
Rand-Zabar
Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:24 pm
#10

But if you hit one who is already kneeling, which they are alot of the time, they go to prone, and ranged point blank prone, they cant fire. so they cant attack.



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ArkMindSpear
Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:40 pm
#11

No....KD is WAYYYYYY better than posture down....you just gave like 1 example where it might be AS good as KD but knockdown is better 95% of the situations.



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killadwarf
Tue Sep 30, 2003 6:26 pm
#12

as far as pvp goes swordsman is 10times better.. and i've pvped with both weapons... the polearm ham/bad accuracy among other things make it near impossible to use




Saryon McFall

Aspiring Bounty Hunter 0224 / Ranger 0010 / Holocron Slave 4444
DareinHawkeyes
Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:17 pm
#13

kd has its uses like if u kd em and hit em while their down it shows u do 1k dmg when in fact u do 2k, as for posture change, its useless against critters cause u cant change their posture but at this point id about trade a mind attack for KD o wait tka get KD PC AND a mind hit what was i thinkin maybe i should go tka
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