Pikeman Archive
Thread: I think Pikeman should get a Heavy AP weapon
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Rocacca
Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:30 pm
#1
Well sincethePikeman profession has....
- Low damage crafted weapons
- Slow speed crafted weapons
- The worst defenses of any combat profession
- The worst secondary defense mod (block)
- Slow speed at master
- Horrible accuracy overall
- Lowest +toughness mod of any melee profession
- Nocool benefits like TKA meditation
- Crappy damage types compared to Fencer Stun damage and swordsman Blast damage
- Lowest damage modifyer on our highest damage attack, which is 4x compared to TKA, Fencer, and Swordsman 5x
- A type of Nightsister which we cannot even touch which drops components to one of our weapons
Wouldent it be fair to make us the only melee profession with a Heavy AP weapon? Just like Rifleman is the only ranged profession with a Heavy AP weapon....
Hell, maybe we could give the Nightsister Energy Lance Heavy AP? Since it is worthless ATM anyway and near impossible to get......
Post your thoughts about these two ideas here, I think its very fair....
Message Edited by Rocacca on 07-08-2004 11:32 PM
Godrick
Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:13 am
#2
i just started going pikemen, but yeah it was horrible grinding through polearms 1-3. the staff and metal staff suck, low damage horrible speed. I couldn't wait to get certified for my LVA, since i just looted a 695 damage one a couple days ago. I see a lot of pikemen who can't damage certain ns at all, thats the biggest withdraw for me, but i'm gonna be using a master fencer, swordsman, pikemen template for the time being so it all works out for me.
Oh and as far as the ns boss goes, i usually get buffs before server reset and i log near stronghold an right when its up i can get to the ns. A friend of mine looted some exceptional motors used to make the energy lance, but i still have yet to see an energy lance from someone. I know of 2 on sunrunner that are really nice but thats it =/
Message Edited by Godrick on 07-09-2004 02:15 AM
Nura
Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:22 am
#3
i realy dont understand why people think that a lousy sword does more dmg then a big heavy vibrating axe. at least they should to about the same damage.
and for our damage types, what wrong with electricity? besides BH we are the only ones who have this kind of damage.
JedimEmO
Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:36 am
#4
[quote]I see a lot of pikemen who can't damage certain ns at all, thats the biggest withdraw for me[/quote]
Oh yes we can... with DOTs
I soloed a Spiderclan Arch Witch last night with DOTs (took me about an hour), and got nothing. Never again!
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It wasn't that bad, though, since there was two dragoons and an initiate spawning around me as I fought her, so I had something to do
Didn't get anything nice from either, though
Oh yes we can... with DOTs
I soloed a Spiderclan Arch Witch last night with DOTs (took me about an hour), and got nothing. Never again![edit]
It wasn't that bad, though, since there was two dragoons and an initiate spawning around me as I fought her, so I had something to do
Didn't get anything nice from either, though Message Edited by JedimEmO on 07-09-2004 03:38 PM
Cakins7005
Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:31 pm
#5
Most people agree that Swordsman should be the highest damaging melee class with the hardest hitting melee weapons. I also believe that. However, I also think the Nightsister Energy lance should also be heavy ap sincethe Nightsister leader dies within 15 minutes of server reboot. Both Swordsman and Pikeman could be heavy damage melee classes with different strategies to be used.
Mapai
Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:51 pm
#6
I have always felt the VL and the NSEL should at least have ap2. Powerhammers are, I don't see how it would be game breaking.
Metroid
Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:57 am
#7
Nura wrote:
i realy dont understand why people think that a lousy sword does more dmg then a big heavy vibrating axe. at least they should to about the same damage.
and for our damage types, what wrong with electricity? besides BH we are the only ones who have this kind of damage.
It's a misconception. Technically pikes should do more damage, they are built to (hense the vibrating).
They should also cut metal easier, but anyways
During beta, the devs claimed the following:
Fencer: Lowest damage, fastest attack, best defense
Swords: Medium of each
Pike: Highest damage, slowest attack, worst defense
Now, we all know it never came out like that.
Message Edited by Metroid on 07-09-2004 05:52 PM
TurboSith
Sat Jul 10, 2004 4:41 am
#8
i agree with a lot of what is said.. if you really think of it.. heavy sowrd is just huge heavy weapons that should do more dmg.. that is fine..
but pike is long sharp weapons meant for piercing blows... which would insist we should have ap3... to pierce...
Jaiste
Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:05 pm
#9
Well if you look at the historical context of Pikes, They were used to take down heavily armored mounted knights... We definitely should have ap3, Make Pikeman something special in the melee world!!
SproBeGrga
Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:29 pm
#11
I absolutely agree
An AP3 damage weapon.. at least AP2 ! Pierce it!
An AP3 damage weapon.. at least AP2 ! Pierce it!
SivartMalcuma
Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:42 pm
#13
I dont think we need a new damage type. We get electricity and energy - quite unique IMO. I think the NSEL should be a bit more accessible, and moving the vibro lance up to AP2 would be nice as well.
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