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Thread: IfPikeman is a crowd control profession...

ImperialTwilek
Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:47 am
#1

Then why do we only get 1 AoE attack, and a weak one at that?
Orya
Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:48 am
#2

area spin and that area KD means we have 2, but your right, they both suck!



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Sirgleno
Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:14 pm
#3

Area KD, that is the bomb-diggity, or at least it should be at Master Pikes.



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CeaigaAlSmicea
Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:52 pm
#4


What area KD I don't see it, but compared to PRE-CU yeah we have NO crowd control ability.



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LinaraAdun
Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:22 pm
#5

Pikeman are a tanking profession, not crowd control. Look here:


http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/content.jsp?page=Combat%20Upgrade:%20Combat%20Schematic




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annelid0
Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:03 pm
#6


LinaraAdun wrote:
Pikeman are a tanking profession, not crowd control. Look here:
http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/content.jsp?page=Combat%20Upgrade:%20Combat%20Schematic



Then look here. You'll see the following:

Primary Role: Melee Opponent Control (Attacker Modifiers)
Secondary Role: Melee Crowd Control (Attacker Control)


So yes we're tanking, but we're also intended to be crowd control.



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lycanthropy
Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:47 am
#7


sense when does crowd control mean AOE? if you are able to take on several oppenents like the description describes you ARE crowd controlling, the whole crowd is on YOU!


Pikeman
Primary Role: Melee Opponent Control (Attacker Modifiers)
Secondary Role: Melee Crowd Control (Attacker Control)
Offense: Weak (2)
Defense: Strong(4)
Crowd Control: Moderate(3)


The Pikeman specializes in controlling and tanking groups of opponents. In addition to a generally strong defensive ability the Pikeman has the ability to significantly reduce an opponent's combat ability. These defensive abilities combined with some good area attack capabilities make the Pikeman a strong combatant.


the crowd control comes from a combination of defensive abilities and some area attack capabilities


NOT several AOE abilities.


so in this description we are a secondary crowd controller, just not in the way you want it.




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annelid0
Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:42 pm
#8


lycanthropy wrote:

sense when does crowd control mean AOE? if you are able to take on several oppenents like the description describes you ARE crowd controlling, the whole crowd is on YOU!



With this hate system I couldn't keep the whole crowd on me if I was coated in krazy glue.



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Droidmaker666
Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:19 am
#9

Our aoe attack and kd is MUCH MUCH too weak to be crowd control the damage on aoe attack is so low it has no agro, and kd has no agro to speak of.

Pikeman really dont have any form of agro any good range player will rip the mobs right off of us or healers 1 heal and you loose agro.
WarWidow
Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:36 am
#10

Agreed.

We need better AOE abilities.

Intimadate & Warcry should effect all those that mob us or are effected by our area spin assault.

Masterpike at Master level should have some form of Parry Rispote or Sword Flurry. Watch martial arts movies and think of someone spinning a polearm fast like a shield.

Leg assaults should act like a weak ROOT ability for defence. Think of how it feels to wake someone in the knee. Stun works well, but the opponent still moves.

I understand we are secondary at crowd control, but what if the cword we are controling is all ranged? We cant become good tanks if we are rooted and snared into the ground.

Also, elemental damage on weapons needs to be fixed.





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Sylkie
Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:58 pm
#11

Pikeman has three AoEs. Spinattack, Sweep and Warcry.



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Kabar22
Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:37 am
#12


This is how you control a crowd.....



http://www.negative-shock.net/view-451




can some on eclicky this for me please



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Psychopyro80
Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:58 am
#13


Kabar22 wrote:

This is how you control a crowd.....

http://www.negative-shock.net/view-451

can some on eclicky this for me please
Kabar
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Ceiaga
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There you go. Clickied

Message Edited by Psychopyro80 on 06-21-2005 02:04 AM



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