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Thread: The true pikeman

gametruth
Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:57 pm
#1

/cheer


Yes, the staff is the most fearsome melee weapon ever devised and a master staff weilder is nigh invulnerable to melee attack. Sadly this isn't real life and there does need to be some form of balance. If you are looking for good counterattack boosts, i recommend adding carbineer


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Hondor64
Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:05 pm
#2
i dunno if this has been writen before but here we go.


back in mideivil times the sword was most comon, both the single handed and the dual handed type. these were used by footmen and by calvery. now eveyone knows that calvery is death on foot, except pikemen. now pikemen in the litereal sence were a group of insame people with long poles that were used to dismount and kill horses and horsemen. but we look at our pikes were not really pikemen but staffers.


Now there were many great swordsmen in the world at that time and they became almost un beetable but by a few others. Farmers. yes farmers were able to defete some of the best swordsmen in the world. How? with the quarterstaff. the quarterstaff is the ultimate defence weapon. with it you are able to both defend and attack at the same time. The ability of the quarterstaff is not to STOP the attack of the sword but to deflect it and counter attack. Your oponent swings in at you. you knock his blade around with your right part of your staff and then you swing your left under his legs knocking him down. followed by a blow to the wind pipe. The Quarterstaff was a very very deadly weapon in a masters hand. it was also very accurate.


Now we look at the SWG pikeman

we are a broken class. we should definatly have a counter attack at the least as that was one of the main things the quarterstaff and pikeman did. we should also get a much higher mele defence. as our weapon was designed for defence. as well there was nothing more terifying then a Horseman with a lance. so i think we should get some sort of charge attack. allow us when galloping on a mount to have a polearm out and hit a single apponent for huge dmg. it can be very inacurate but if it hits it does insane damgae. i'm thinkin like 4000 AP2 ext. just think you are standing there and somone rides down on a horse doin 30mph, or faster wand hits you in the chest with a staff with a giant metal end. It might hurt a bit.


so basicly what i am saying is the pikeman in this game should go back to our routs, we have the reach to do area, which is something that was done in the time. we were defenceive specialists. we could defete any swordsman. swordsmen were afraid of a trained quarterstaff weilding farmer. and we should also maybe get some sort of animal riding attack.


I dunno feel free to flame my post. i'm runin on caffine and lack of sleep so if you don't like it who cares it's my thoughts as to what we were originaly historicly and what we could be in this game.





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Arcdischarge
Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:40 pm
#3

historical note


A lone pikeman (even a superior one) would almost certainly be slain by a single competent cavalryman. Now everyone should know that cavalry was sure death for infantry, which were nearly helpless against it, except for the pike. The value of the pike against cavalry was in the ability to form a tightly knit square of pikes facing outwards, with either archers or rifleman (pick your century) behind. Time and time again it was shown that horses, no matter how well trained or driven, shy away from the pikes at the last moment, making a well-formed square a safe-haven for infantry. However, a single gap in the square could mean death for everyone inside. Failure to quicklyreplace a fallen pikeman or to squeeze down the square would allow penetration by cavalry, and the resulting disorganization from even a single mounted warrior meant breakdown of the square and death to infantry. Even well trained infantry could be provoked into breaking their lines at the sight of charging horses, and sometimes did.


This battleground between pikeman (infantry) and cavalry formed the basis for military strategy &tactics on land from the Dark Ages to (arguably) 1800.





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Hondor64
Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:42 am
#4
Yup i am currently getting the carbanere counterattack abilities. Carbin/Pike should make for a good combo



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Hondor64
Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:14 am
#5
my point exactly. that is why i am saying were more quarterstaffers then actuall pikemen.and because there are no calvery in the game we should be gods



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Ace-Of-All-Trades
Sat Apr 03, 2004 8:16 pm
#6
Interesting


but


LEARN TO SPELL



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sidus007
Sat Apr 03, 2004 8:46 pm
#7
i love this post, truely shows how wrong this profession was made. but one thing still makes me think....you get the counterattack bonus from carbineer!?!?!?



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JDidge
Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:03 am
#8
lol....couldnt find anything to flame but his spelling? At least he could get across his thoughts. And maybe he can spell really well, just toned it down for the general population. So they can understand.
Ace-Of-All-Trades
Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:07 am
#9
The "general population" knows how to spell

medieval




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Yes it was me that took the name Isaac
I apologize all you Isac's, Isaak's, Izaac's, and Isic's
I screwed you over didnt I?
hananoken
Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:48 am
#10
The general SWG population can't spell simple words like carbine, crate, DUAL.. the list is extensive if you just read yoru screen both on the forums and in-game.


Good post,bad spelling. And the earth keeps turning.









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CarpaBob
Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:08 am
#11

I would agree the quarterstaff would be a better anology for what the Pikeman do, but as a sidenote I would have to say the Phalanx are the original blokes with big pointy sticks and they kicked buttock as long as they didn't get flanked.


I like to think of my character as more of a martial artist in the Chinese school of stick fighting, I say stick fighting cause I can't think what the proper name they have for it is.





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ArkMindSpear
Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:35 am
#12
Hey, it's one of those OoVs. Say, where'd you guys move your city to? I need to unload the vendor of all its great foods/drinks. It always had such great prices.



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BalexSlicer
Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:16 pm
#13
I like what your saying. And if I designed the class we would be designed to fight on mounts :shrug:

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