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Thread: Hybrid Profession??

Kreeghan
Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:14 pm
#1

Could someone please explain what TH meant in the top 10 answers to the Pikeman Prof when he stated it is a hybrid profession? Maybe I don't understand what the term "hybrid" means here.


I always thought a hybrid profession is what Commando is: you need unarmed 4 and master marksman to be a novice commando. Basically, something from two different professions (or at least 2 different lines of a starter profession) combine to allow you to become a novice hybrid. But Pikeman is polearm 4 and you can become novice pikeman.


Unlesshe means you need to be a Medic in order to be a Pikeman, that would make sense I guess


Slow speed, high-ham specials, low damage, and extraordinarily low to-hit mods on weapons (definitely need Medic abilities )

vonbloodworth
Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:17 pm
#2

we are lost too


we never knew.....





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Locky-1138
Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:27 pm
#3

well... i am a master rifleman, working on pike. im at 3033 now, and have block of 150, i block like MAD! talking 15 jinda cant take me out oh it takes a while to kill them off, but i live long enough to do it...


so for me, rifle + pike = alot of fun (and i finaly get to use my broken rifle block mods to)


maby thats what he means...





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CLab2021
Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:40 pm
#4

Thunderjokehas no idea of the basic concepts of the game. Thats what he menat.


We are an Elite Profession, you are correct, Hybrids are Profession that require 2 professions in oder to train in another.


And he can't use the forgive me I made a mistake excuse on this one, This is bottom line basics of the Professions, it's not something anyone one at SOE should ever make a mistake, it insane Thunderjoke makes so many mistakes if were any other job he would be fired for neglegence.



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Golden_Flame
Mon Feb 09, 2004 7:10 pm
#5

Perhaps they are doing something with another profession? I have no clue why a Dev would say that. Maybe he thought he was in the Bounty Hunter forum or something.



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Cooter_Scylla
Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:26 pm
#6

Look at his responses, maybe he just forgot what forum he was in while he was copy-pasting...

Maybe he meant hybrid as in you really don't stand a chance of doing anything without being another master combat class to kill stuff or atleast doc, that's hybrid right? hmmm...



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MagusZDark
Mon Feb 09, 2004 11:33 pm
#7






Cooter_Scylla wrote:

Look at his responses, maybe he just forgot what forum he was in while he was copy-pasting...





Right, look at his response: "I want to stress that Pikeman is a Hybrid Profession"


He clearly states that Pikeman is a Hybrid profession, so I guess we can rule out that it was merely copy and paste.
Bihlbo
Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:00 pm
#8

We are an Elite Profession, you are correct, Hybrids are Profession that require 2 professions in oder to train in another.

Stop whining about this, you're wrong.

There is no reason at all to get bend out of shape about "I want to stress that Pikeman is a Hybrid Profession". To you "hybrid profession" means that it requires more than one profession's skill. But obviously that's not what TH meant. The word hybrid can be used in more than one way!

Read his whole answer to #3 again:
The Pikeman focus is to further defining the role in combat, getting the moves balanced and giving them a role in the GCW. I want to stress that Pikeman is a Hybrid Profession - - it isn’t meant to be played is “Im a this and not that” or “Im a Warrior and not a Cleric”. SWG professions are meant to be mix and match. Pick what you want.
The dev team doesn’t want players to get tied down with the idea of being a single profession. The game was designed so players would have a greater customizability with their characters.


Obviously TH isn't talking about prerequisites for the Pikeman profession, he's talking about your character's other professions.

It's called reading comprehension. Go get some.



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Pizon
Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:58 pm
#9

people we are a hybrid profession. do you have medic?do you have othercombat skills?


if you said no to both of these i want to know how far you are in pikeman because **edit** theres no way i would of mastered pikeman without medic



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annelid0
Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:37 pm
#10


Bihlbo wrote:
It's called reading comprehension. Go get some.


Why is it that people who say things like this never take their own advice? You can make up your own definition of "hybrid" if you want, but I think most of us are going to stick to the standard ones.

Every definition of the word "hybrid" involves the combination of two or more things, and the parents are typically dissimilar in some way. For instance, the offspring of a horse and a horse is not a hybrid species, but the offspring of a horse and a donkey is. In SWG, the offspring of scout and marksman is the hybrid profession of bounty hunter. If you stretch, you could even make the case that creature handlers are a hybrid of explorer and hunter, despite both being from the scouting profession.

In no way is the pikeman profession a combination of two things. It's the extension of a single branch of the brawler profession, period. A player may be a pikeman/medic hybrid, but pikeman itself is in no way a hybrid profession.

TH screwed up and misused the word hybrid. Not really a big deal by itself, and if his 10 answers had any substance to them nobody would have especially cared. Since they didn't, it just further suggests that he didn't know what he was talking about.



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MagusZDark
Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:59 pm
#11






Bihlbo wrote:

Obviously TH isn't talking about prerequisites for the Pikeman profession, he's talking about your character's other professions.

It's called reading comprehension. Go get some.




By your logic EVERY class in a Hybrid profession. His statement was too vague to interpret what he was trying to say. The PIKEMAN class is NOT a hybrid profession. If he wanted to say what you were implying he would have made it clearer.

CLab2021
Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:58 pm
#12

wow some jerks in here,


in SWG terms, Hybrid means one specific thing, and Elite means one specific thing. Thats why Thunderjoke is wrong.


Yea Hybrid can mean something else but not when talking SWG, read the manuel its there in plain english....



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Bihlbo
Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:24 pm
#13

By your logic EVERY class in a Hybrid profession. His statement was too vague to interpret what he was trying to say. The PIKEMAN class is NOT a hybrid profession. If he wanted to say what you were implying he would have made it clearer.


You know, it is possible to make mistakes. Maybe TH should have used a better word like "dependant", and yet, just didn't. Thunderheart started off on these forums the same as you and me, just posting and doing his best. Now he has to coordinate all of the professions, all of the Correspondants, and talk to the Dev team, keep on top of game issues, and get in some play time. You think he's not going to make an occasional mistake? He probably does more typing concerning this game in a morning than you do in a week.


In this situation he madea minor mistake of using a word in such a way that, while not incorrect, is confusing because it's easier for us to understand this word only in terms of game lingo. But come on, it's not that hard to read the rest of that answer and understand what he's talking about. You people who are attacking him, calling him names, claiming that he should be fired, and generally holding him up to a level of responsibility that you yourselves could not meet are not only being unfair, you're being rediculously negative.


Ever read Spider-Man comics? J. J. Jameson hates Spidey. Why? Because he sees this guy doing the stuff that JJ's always wanted to do, to be a hero and to be in the spotlight. And he resents that this other guy gets to do it seemingly out of the blue, without putting in all the hard work that JJ feels has entitled him to a little bit of glory. So he attacks Spidey the only way he knows how, just to make himself feel better, rather than admitting to himself that he doesn't have what it takes.


Take a guess as to why I brought that up.



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