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Thread: who would win...
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dwf
Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:15 pm
#1
i was wondering if you had a pikeman and a fencer who would come out on top i dont know if this has been posted before but just wondering?
Kino1816
Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:32 pm
#2
the fencer if the pikeman didnt have a fire/poison on the same stats
dwf
Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:15 pm
#3
why would they win is it cause of the better def. or is just that pikeman isnt good in pvp?
Fierce1
Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:21 pm
#4
To broad,to broad..
the better player will win,period.
fencer is good in pvp if played right
pikeman is good in pvp if played right
....but assuming both knew exactly what they were doing (including eating foods etc etc).. the weps would probly decide the victor.
Maztag
Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:26 pm
#6
Fierce1 wrote:
To broad,to broad..
the better player will win,period.
fencer is good in pvp if played right
pikeman is good in pvp if played right
....but assuming both knew exactly what they were doing (including eating foods etc etc).. the weps would probly decide the victor.
Agree with all that but it would also come down to their other skills, like if one was a pikeman/tailor and one was a fencer/doc
Maztag
Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:36 pm
#8
dwf wrote:
what if it was pikeman/tk and fencer/swords?
Well you'd have to say their exact skills, other wise there are alot of points left over that could be used in some very helpful things
bmeenan
Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:29 am
#9
As a fencer, having a very nice ackley-made stun baton that does high damage is required for PvP. Assuming the fencer has that, all they really have to do is land on dizzy/kd, wail away, and it's all over.
As a pikeman, we have a hard time doing serious damage in PvP because of damage mitigation (cause our weapons have a huge range). The workaround to this are the DoTs.
If the two came across each other (assuming the fencer had the ackley baton and the pikeman had some sort of insane DOT weapon) the winner would be the fencer if he could land the kd/dizzy before the pikeman dot landed or the pikeman if he landed the DoT first without getting kd/dizzy stuck on him.
That's my take at least.
As a pikeman, we have a hard time doing serious damage in PvP because of damage mitigation (cause our weapons have a huge range). The workaround to this are the DoTs.
If the two came across each other (assuming the fencer had the ackley baton and the pikeman had some sort of insane DOT weapon) the winner would be the fencer if he could land the kd/dizzy before the pikeman dot landed or the pikeman if he landed the DoT first without getting kd/dizzy stuck on him.
That's my take at least.
VacaXXX
Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:40 am
#10
bmeenan wrote:
As a fencer, having a very nice ackley-made stun baton that does high damage is required for PvP. Assuming the fencer has that, all they really have to do is land on dizzy/kd, wail away, and it's all over.
As a pikeman, we have a hard time doing serious damage in PvP because of damage mitigation (cause our weapons have a huge range). The workaround to this are the DoTs.
If the two came across each other (assuming the fencer had the ackley baton and the pikeman had some sort of insane DOT weapon) the winner would be the fencer if he could land the kd/dizzy before the pikeman dot landed or the pikeman if he landed the DoT first without getting kd/dizzy stuck on him.
That's my take at least.
see, with the state of this game right now its much harder to say who would win in anything
Does the Pikeman have his sliced/ADK PSG
what stat does the pikemans DOT's hit?
does the warcry get off in time? did the stomach timing work out right >?<
it also depends on the person knowing their proffesion and using hte correct attacks.. . .does the Pikeman have uber 40/90/80 armor? does the fencer? whats the max on the pikemans damage pike?
Message Edited by VacaXXX on 03-15-2005 05:40 AM
bmeenan
Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:23 am
#11
Yeah I agree with you 100%, so many variables to consider.
Here's one question to consider, though: Given the scenario of who would win in a fight, pikeman or fencer ... do you see any scenario where the pikeman would win WITHOUT a DoT weapon?
While I'm sure we could come with a few cases where great pikeman tactics could take down a tactically poor fencer, I still feel that in most cases, if you subtract the DOT from the Pikeman, he gets owned.
Here's one question to consider, though: Given the scenario of who would win in a fight, pikeman or fencer ... do you see any scenario where the pikeman would win WITHOUT a DoT weapon?
While I'm sure we could come with a few cases where great pikeman tactics could take down a tactically poor fencer, I still feel that in most cases, if you subtract the DOT from the Pikeman, he gets owned.
StellarSwordsman
Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:17 am
#12
bmeenan wrote:
Yeah I agree with you 100%, so many variables to consider.
Here's one question to consider, though: Given the scenario of who would win in a fight, pikeman or fencer ... do you see any scenario where the pikeman would win WITHOUT a DoT weapon?
While I'm sure we could come with a few cases where great pikeman tactics could take down a tactically poor fencer, I still feel that in most cases, if you subtract the DOT from the Pikeman, he gets owned.
If the fencer didnt have medic, and the pikeman had a 1k LVA. Also the fencer cant have 90% kin comp. The pikeman would need to eat Thatikillio as well.
LucentFoE
Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:27 am
#13
dueled a fencer last night, he had great stun batons (424 max dmg), and great armor, and he still went down. KD'ed he was taking 430-530 damage through armor
it all depends on how you use your profession
it all depends on how you use your profession
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