Pikeman Archive
Thread: Warcry
antares_Kauri wrote:
No there is no defence and it can't be removed. Just like intimidate and some others. It's a pikeman specialty.
antares
Ouchie... Perma slow...
Dont worry, Im resisting the urge to cry nerf.. lol
antares
antares_Kauri wrote:
There are several other states that aren't resistable.
antares
True.. but -40 speed perm is pretty tough. Im MLS and I have some speed tapes and I was rendered useless as far as DPS goes for the entire fight.
The slow is the best special ive had to combat to date.
The slow combined with intimidate and your DPS is now 1/3 of what it used to be, For the entire fight.
.... still resisting.... 
Vicci A'Tivo - Elder "in your face" Bounty Hunter
antares_Kauri wrote:
Better than root, where if you're melee your dps becomes zero.
antares
I can still dish out damage rooted by either saber throwing or pull out my Rifle and plug away.
Plus 1 on 1 root cant be chained.
The same could be said about KD... KD means zero DPS. But you cant chain KD.
antares
antares
antares_Kauri wrote:
Before the Jedi nerf calls begin, read this post that has extensive testing on the real effect of the -40 speed debuff. The end result is that it's about a 26% decrease in attack speed, which isn't that bad or something that needs nerfing.
antares
Ahhh I think im hitting a nerve here.... let me guess... your a pikeman.
At MLS you get
+100 Speed to any LS
+20 General Melee Speed.
120 Speed + 20 from Improved Force Speed.
So yes, at 140 Speed if someone is hitting you with this specialdoing -40 speed forthe entire fight you are slowed by 28.59%.
The problem isnt so much the slow, its the slow along with improved intimidate. Not only are you slowing the target but you are reducing the damage output perm for the entire fight.
What is the percentage of damage reduction from Improved Intimidate?
Hmmm, interesting.
As far as i know.... pikeman's main role in this game is tanking. I am not a hundred percent but i believe that means we are supposed to be able to take a lot of damage. One might even take a leap of logic and assume that would also mean more longevity in a fight. Our secondary role, I am told, is 'opponent modification'. I could be way off base but i interpret that as being able to debuff our opponents. Since that function is not specifically mentioned in other melee professions i think that means we are supposed to be better at it.
I obviously love pikeman and do not feel it should be nerfed. As far as I am concerned tk pikeman is the best dual mastery tanking combo for non-jedi and should stay that way. I am totally fine with Jedi being able to tank more and you currently can with the right build. A master pikeman template cannot take out necrosis while a master defender template can. That's one example anyway. warcry is one of our better attacks and i do not feel it needs to get nerfed at all.
I haven't won vs. any full temp jedi's yet but am getting closer all the time. The only reason I am getting closer is cause i am honing my skills constantly. I am quite sure there will always be some jedi that i won't be able to beat though ( in the current system) and i am okay with that. Oh, and if you think improved warcry from a master pikeman stacker is rough........ fight a good TKM / M doc. They can go forever.