Pikeman Archive
Thread: Energy Lance Discussion
Locky-1138
Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:12 pm
#40
i have been going after axkva for about the last 5 days straight, get up early just after reset, assemble my small team (since she wont stick any more) kill, loot, log out. there are probably a bunch of pissed off people who think the cave is permanently empty thanks to us.
so far:
nothing
nothing
1 POS lva, total garbage, about 150 max damage, no dot etc.
9 heavy clasps
11 heavy leather
honestly i feel bad about it... i am basicly screwing every one on the server over by killing her right after reset over and over and over it insures that they have no chance at all of even enjoying a raid on the cave for fun, the spawn rate Needs to be fixed.
i will have my lance if i have to camp that bloody cave for 2 months, and every one else on my server will have no chance to enjoy it because, gues what, i will have cleared it out 1 hour after reset. that just sucks.
ScDarkKnight
Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:44 pm
#41
I think it should stay the same to make it ... Same components and same drop rate (well maybe increasing drop rate a little bit) ... it is really hard to get ... and it SHOULD be really hard to get ...
But ..... Yeah make it worth the effort .... it needs minimum AP2 .. and possibly AP3 ....
Also ... I'd like to see this weapon as a way to counter the damn mitigation ... something like 400-600 dmg ... Too high you say ?? Hell ... an Energy Lance worth Minimum 2M .. sometime around 5M ... I can buy a 800+ LVA for this price ... and I think a normal crafted LVA should be around 400-450 Before the slice ...
Also ...remove the Health Dot and replace it with another Secondary Dot .. likeStamina ... granted they are useless for now but when they will fix (read nerf) buffs .. they will become really handy ...
My though
Mystic_Squirrel
Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:10 pm
#42
Locky-1138 wrote:
i have been going after axkva for about the last 5 days straight, get up early just after reset, assemble my small team (since she wont stick any more) kill, loot, log out. there are probably a bunch of pissed off people who think the cave is permanently empty thanks to us.
so far:
nothing
nothing
1 POS lva, total garbage, about 150 max damage, no dot etc.
9 heavy clasps
11 heavy leather
honestly i feel bad about it... i am basicly screwing every one on the server over by killing her right after reset over and over and over it insures that they have no chance at all of even enjoying a raid on the cave for fun, the spawn rate Needs to be fixed.
i will have my lance if i have to camp that bloody cave for 2 months, and every one else on my server will have no chance to enjoy it because, gues what, i will have cleared it out 1 hour after reset. that just sucks.
So its you doing it! **edit**!!!!
f33d84ck
Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:51 am
#43
What kind of stats are you guys seeing on the Nightsister Vibro Motors you loot? I looted some last night, and they are nowhere near as good as the screenshot of the ones for the Energy Land Guide. I think the Max damage on them is 35. Would that even be worth crafting into the lance?
GoCanes
Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:41 am
#44
antares_Kauri wrote:
GoCanes wrote:
I think the NSEL is fine as it is... .
I think you're alone with that statement.
antares
master pikeman
So you feel the NSEL should have better stats, but still as hard to get? I can agree with that as well, but I still feel the NSEL is a decent weapon as it is - it gives us a new damage type, nice stats and speed if crafted right, and nice effects during usage or while walking around/shuttling... I think that instead of improving the NSEL, just add new weapons to the game... The riflemen have a few new weapons added just recently and all we have is one new weapon since launch... 
Lurtzestra
Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:03 am
#45
Umm No Offense Canes...but you're way behind the times.
You said "the NSEL is a decent weapon"
Yeak ok max damage no slice around 350...yep thats WORSE than an LVA which u can use @ polearms 3 on the brawler tree. And its AP1 while the LVA is AP2.
"it gives a new damage type"
Yep which turns out to be the 2nd most used damage type in the game and as totally ununique as the devs could possibly have been.
"has nice effects during usage and shuttling"
Which are bugged so they only work the 1st 30sec after you shuttle into the starport/shuttleport.
And lastly, sorry to have to bring this up, but a Hokie is way cooler than a stupid Hurricane
(we'll have fun beating you guys to a pulp in the ACC this comming season)
You said "the NSEL is a decent weapon"
Yeak ok max damage no slice around 350...yep thats WORSE than an LVA which u can use @ polearms 3 on the brawler tree. And its AP1 while the LVA is AP2.
"it gives a new damage type"
Yep which turns out to be the 2nd most used damage type in the game and as totally ununique as the devs could possibly have been.
"has nice effects during usage and shuttling"
Which are bugged so they only work the 1st 30sec after you shuttle into the starport/shuttleport.
And lastly, sorry to have to bring this up, but a Hokie is way cooler than a stupid Hurricane
(we'll have fun beating you guys to a pulp in the ACC this comming season)
CerebrusTantarrris
Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:23 am
#46
i think for the most part it is fine as is.
However having said that if i could change it i would one make it ap2 and two rais the minimum damage. I dont care about max damage, i have looted weaps for that. Min damage is all i care about.
D3st0r
Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:27 am
#47
It's called a energy lance, I dont think the devs are going to give it a different damage type than the name would imply.
Medium AP? Maybe, Heavy AP? No way can a polearm be heavy AP
Witter
Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:36 am
#48
ALL NIGHTSISTERS SHOULD BE CAPABLE OF DROPPING THE VIBRO BLADE UNITS.... that is all
lol no really though they should, maybe just make the schematic only attainable from Axtva.
gOoSe4567
Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:59 am
#49
i think that she should spwn every 3 hours so that when u try to fight her again ur buffs are gone.......... it will still keep it rare
but just not really really really rare like it is now.
RoyceCattemara
Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:08 am
#50
Tal, if the most powerful Lightsaber is a double-bladed (pike) saber, why shouldn't a regular pike be the most powerful melee weapon in the game? You can put the most force behind a long stick. AP3 Energy would make it the T21 of melee
sinsentry
Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:24 pm
#51
yeah i looted my second schematic yesterday not sure if i should use it or not
and your correct ap 3 energy would be reasonable
ArkMindSpear
Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:12 am
#52
As for the defense of the AP3 for the NSEN;For those who want to say what a weapon can and cannot do. Look at the lance, then look at every other weapon in the game. I dare you to find one with more sharp edges. That thing would slice anything to ribbins. ANd depending on the metal it is made out of, could get thru heavy armor too.
I personaly don't feel a NEED for AP3...it'd be nice, but I'd rather have more base damage.
Also, as for the damage type. People keep saying it should be something else. Everyone knows what you are getting at. You want stun, becouse other than stun, every damage type is just about as usefull.
You want to be good in PvP, i feel your pain.
I don't know why on earth every type of armor there is has a vulnerability to stun. COmposite, ubese AND RIS. are all vulnerable to the stuff. I blame the developers for not mixing up the vulnerablities.