Pikeman Archive
Thread: Temporary Pikeman fixes until CB
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psycowars
Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:51 pm
#27
things thatNEED to be fixed:
1. Accuracy (I see no reason why LVA's are like -28 to -45 accuracy. whats the big deal about making them 0, that would be enough of a boost. Or you can just add another +5 accuracy to every accuracy mod in the polearms and pikeman tree.)
2. Speed (same as accuracy change the LVA weapon stats, or add an extra couple + speed mods in the polearms and pikeman tree)
3. Toughness (I shouldnt have to wear my 80% compositewhile buffedjust tofight "yellow" con mobs)
4. Block (If i block an attack it means it didnt hit me hence i should not take any damage if i block someting.)
things i would LIKE to see changed:
1. Reduce HAM (I shouldnt have to be buffed just to use a few specials)
2. AP3 (I firmly belive we should have an ap3 weapon of some sort. Any of you watch the clone wars cartoon on cartoon network. there was one episode where obi-wan's clone troopers get there butts handed to them by these guys on speeders with pikes. In the sequence all the clone troopers vehicles are also sliced to ribbons by these pikes which are obiously heavy armor pericing. So given this example i dont see any reason why we cant have a ap3 weapon, it obously falls in line with continuity and i dont think it would unbalance the game.)
3. Attack while mounted. (same example from the clone wars cartoon, theyattacked while mounted onspeeders.)
Message Edited by psycowars on 07-21-2004 08:12 PM
pagon
Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:15 pm
#28
hmm it seems alot of you guys think pikeman is too weak ... i think your wrong ... i'll list pro and cons
Pro : can get all weapons free of charge ..
Pro: hit3 rocks with a good pike anything above ... 600
Pro: fire,poison pikes and state attacks ... if you don't know, a good pikeman can keep you on the floor for whole battle .... dizzy, area kd, hit3 polearmlunge 1 polearm
lunge2 then hit 3 hit 3 hit 3 while there on ground and its over....
Pro:everyone thinks pikeman is only good for its dots .. thats when you stun, intimidate, dizzy kd and kill them
Con: low toughness ...
Con: bad acc on lvas and in general from prof
Con: NSEL sucks considering the work needed to get it... no need to increase spawn its a elite weapon everyone and there mom shouldn't have it
Con: Vl should be med ap .. we don't need a ap3 weapon many profs don't have ap 2 or 3
Con: elders, protectors and other ns shouldn't have crystals and pikes in loot table ... making it even harder to get good pikes
Im sure a few people have seen me loot whoring or pvping and i think i do really well with pikeman
so only things that need changing is
NSEL need better stats
More acc in prof not on weapon
More toughness or higher defence modifiers
and make NS not drop crystals more than pikes again
pagon
Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:12 am
#29
Im master pikeman / swordsman
and something alot of people have said is " everyone in game should be equal " thats not right .. nothing in life is equal or fair .. we all or different and thats what makes the game fun. when your pvp and you see a red dot .. its fun to attack and see whos better. If your overt and your gear sucks, you have no good weapons, and your not buffed is it my fault ? or yours ? the game lets you choice when to be overt so you decided to come to a gun fight with a knife.
alot of the changes in game have come to past because of lazy people bitching to Devs about being equal... as a pikeman with combat delay i can only put maybe 2 dots while fighting .. and with 90% of pvp people being doctors, dots rarely tick one time before there removed so i don't know why people complaining about pikeman dots.
heres a hint for hurting people with pikeman...
get a 800+ pike ..
use dizzy kd and then switch to hit3 ... its the only way to hurt someone in pvp ..
i get60-100dam vs standing melee prof 150-300vs on floor melee profvsranged its alot more ..400- 600 vs standing ranged prof .600 vs on floor melee using 800 vl
i get100- 250dam vs standing melee prof 350 -550 vs on floor melee prof vs ranged is alot more damage 400- 600 vs standing ranged prof.1k on the floor using 1293 lva
if the other person is a doc/ something i use my swordsman skills and go after mind like everyone esle if not its pikeman all the way
Skinktor
Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:46 pm
#30
Raise the damage of hit 3 to 4.5 or 5
Give pikeman a dizzy specific attack
Give pikeman a blind attack
fix block for the love of God
rahzael
Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:16 pm
#31
pagon wrote:
Im master pikeman / swordsman
and something alot of people have said is " everyone in game should be equal " thats not right .. nothing in life is equal or fair .. we all or different and thats what makes the game fun. when your pvp and you see a red dot .. its fun to attack and see whos better. If your overt and your gear sucks, you have no good weapons, and your not buffed is it my fault ? or yours ? the game lets you choice when to be overt so you decided to come to a gun fight with a knife.
alot of the changes in game have come to past because of lazy people bitching to Devs about being equal... as a pikeman with combat delay i can only put maybe 2 dots while fighting .. and with 90% of pvp people being doctors, dots rarely tick one time before there removed so i don't know why people complaining about pikeman dots.
heres a hint for hurting people with pikeman...
get a 800+ pike ..
use dizzy kd and then switch to hit3 ... its the only way to hurt someone in pvp ..
i get60-100dam vs standing melee prof 150-300vs on floor melee profvsranged its alot more ..400- 600 vs standing ranged prof .600 vs on floor melee using 800 vl
i get100- 250dam vs standing melee prof 350 -550 vs on floor melee prof vs ranged is alot more damage 400- 600 vs standing ranged prof.1k on the floor using 1293 lva
if the other person is a doc/ something i use my swordsman skills and go after mind like everyone esle if not its pikeman all the way
we arent asking to be carbon copies of every other combat profession out there, nor are we bitching to the devs about wanting to PWN all with our l33t skillzorz...we want to be equal in the sense that we are on an even standing with other proffessions. as it stands now, any non-FOTM template vs a FOTM is like a novice tailor attacking a jedi sentinel...not only is it not equal...we arent even in the same ballpark anymore.
the way combat is now, unless your flavor of the month, your gimped. like carbineer? oh well your screwed..like pikeman...oh well your screwed . we want the system to be made so that at least everyones POTENTIAL is equal, then leave the rest up to the playes tactics and overall skill.
oh and....our realize on loot to pvp is absurd at best. other profs can at least survive pvp without looted weapons....we live and die by our loot..no DOT or 1500 max LVAs = no pvp for us.
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