Pikeman Archive

Thread: Pondered It Grinded It Hated It Dropped It

AelricMistrider
Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:34 pm
#27






Bumbofett wrote:

Ok there is a problem with pikemen currently is that are speed dmg ratios on our wepons are the lowest in the game i belive (when crafted) and why should pikemen be the ONLY proffession in the game that cant just get a good dmg sliced wepon from there local wepon smith and be balanced with other professions we have to get crazy ass looted pikes that are by no means cheap and speed tapes if we want to use our crafted pikes well. cause i know i cant outdmg a tkm on a tusken warlord and granted there are a couple mobs they cant hurt but most of them we cant hurt either w/o teh nsel wich is way to **edit**ing expensive to use on anything.





Not true. I can get 519 max damage LVA's from weaponsmith's on my galaxy..the problem are vibro lances. Looted are the only one's worth a darn most times. As for your statement about mobs we can't hurt, pick up rifle or swords and you'll be able to take out most mobs.








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annelid0
Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:55 pm
#28


Khoivo wrote:
So please do not confuse my having a looted weapon with not being able to use Pikeman correctly.



I wasn't suggesting you don't know how to use the class.

The argument you were making equated knowing how to play the class with having loot, particularly fast/high-damage weapons and speed tapes. You accused the original poster of not knowing how to use the class because he lacked these items. This is what I disagree with.

When someone complains that the class has problems with speed and people respond with the argument that we can get speed tapes and looted weapons, they ignore the truth. We are a slow class.



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Ilykerrimo
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Bermag
Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:52 am
#29

We could get some better crafted weapons. A PH is 100 more damage than LVA and if you are speed capped the Swordsamn will always deal more damage.


However our advantage is the state effect. Problem is that state effects don't work on high level NPC/creatures. This is the same problem as carbineer have. Think this would be one of most important fixes to pikeman.



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Khoivo
Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:36 am
#30

Not opnce did I say, you needed a looted weapon to be good at pikeman. I pointed out that I was fast and had a fast VL. I also pointed out the difference states`



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Khoivo
Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:57 am
#31

BAH, lets try this again. Ok, I didn't say you needed a looted weapon to be good, I did say I had a fast VL which made me hella fast. I apologize if it came out as that, I possibly worded it wrong. YES, pikeman is a slow class, but look at the damage we deal out, last night I hit a Janta for a lil over 6K of damage. Pikeman needs alot of fixes, if the devs can't hear us talking about it daily, they need hearing aids, or glasses to see the screen better.


The only way to FIX our speed at the moment is with speed tapes and looted weapons, we have no other choice. With that, we are almost as fast as fencers, faster than swordsmen, and we can still make fun of TKA's cause they look like the gymnasts twirling ribbons all over the place (no offense Djena, lol). Now, I am not one of those DOT people, I rarely use em. I use em against NS only, cause I like dealing them their own medicine.all DOT weapons need to go away, and we need to be a bit faster +75 is terrible, and we need a hell of alot better crafted weapons, and more defense, oh we also need a weapon that does AP3.



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annelid0
Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:26 am
#32

As it turns out we're basically in agreement

The whole speed calculation is wonky, if you ask me. I'll be glad when it's changed.



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Ilykerrimo
Grumpy Old Pikeman
Masochistic Wookiee

ZuluShin
Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:14 pm
#33

didn't read the rest of the post but...in order for pikeman to really work you need a good dot weapon (mind fire ) and master brawler.it's probably been mentioned already but didn't want to read the other post


i was a MBrawler/MSwordsman/MFencer/TKN 4000/Pikeman 0041 with attachments and i did pretty well in pvp
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